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	<title>Comments on: And We Thought Java was the Same Everywhere!</title>
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		<title>By: Britney</title>
		<link>http://neosmart.net/blog/2006/and-we-thought-java-was-the-same-everywhere/#comment-453802</link>
		<dc:creator>Britney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 14:12:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ooops, funny prediction about predicting Java&#039;s decline.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ooops, funny prediction about predicting Java&#8217;s decline.</p>
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		<title>By: Computer Guru</title>
		<link>http://neosmart.net/blog/2006/and-we-thought-java-was-the-same-everywhere/#comment-3458</link>
		<dc:creator>Computer Guru</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Jul 2006 17:53:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I couldn&#039;t have said it better myself :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I couldn&#8217;t have said it better myself <img src='http://neosmart.net/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Denis de Bernardy</title>
		<link>http://neosmart.net/blog/2006/and-we-thought-java-was-the-same-everywhere/#comment-3454</link>
		<dc:creator>Denis de Bernardy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Jul 2006 11:22:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>write once... test everywhere... ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>write once&#8230; test everywhere&#8230; <img src='http://neosmart.net/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Computer Guru</title>
		<link>http://neosmart.net/blog/2006/and-we-thought-java-was-the-same-everywhere/#comment-3305</link>
		<dc:creator>Computer Guru</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Jul 2006 15:49:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nope - not in a million years.

Can&#039;t remember the source, but the top online language was PHP, and offline is C  .
Java has been on the decline in terms of true usage for years, and is usually used only certain Windows open source projects, while most other OSS software is in C, and the great majority of all commercial/business applications are in C  .

Look at the facts: the official libraries for the big stuff (Windows API, Wine, DirectX, OpenAL, network stacks, basically anything that you would use to code) is in C  .

At best, Java is used to create proprietary solutions to framework-less applications &#8212; for instance if you want to use existing programs/command-line scripts and a GUI to it, or anywhere where you aren&#039;t technically coding the &lt;em&gt;libraries&lt;/em&gt; themselves in Java, it&#039;s an OK language and the easiest (well.. now that there is J# and C# that&#039;s debatable) to use - but if you have to write/use libraries directly, it&#039;ll result in more work.

The most important thing to look at on that &#039;index&#039; is the source of the info: namely, the &#039;professionals&#039; in those fields. That&#039;s a very biased look at the languages, Java is required learning material for any college or university, and it&#039;s easier than the other language: C. Java is everyone&#039;s strong language, but that doesn&#039;t make it the language of applications today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nope &#8211; not in a million years.</p>
<p>Can&#8217;t remember the source, but the top online language was PHP, and offline is C  .<br />
Java has been on the decline in terms of true usage for years, and is usually used only certain Windows open source projects, while most other OSS software is in C, and the great majority of all commercial/business applications are in C  .</p>
<p>Look at the facts: the official libraries for the big stuff (Windows API, Wine, DirectX, OpenAL, network stacks, basically anything that you would use to code) is in C  .</p>
<p>At best, Java is used to create proprietary solutions to framework-less applications &mdash; for instance if you want to use existing programs/command-line scripts and a GUI to it, or anywhere where you aren&#8217;t technically coding the <em>libraries</em> themselves in Java, it&#8217;s an OK language and the easiest (well.. now that there is J# and C# that&#8217;s debatable) to use &#8211; but if you have to write/use libraries directly, it&#8217;ll result in more work.</p>
<p>The most important thing to look at on that &#8216;index&#8217; is the source of the info: namely, the &#8216;professionals&#8217; in those fields. That&#8217;s a very biased look at the languages, Java is required learning material for any college or university, and it&#8217;s easier than the other language: C. Java is everyone&#8217;s strong language, but that doesn&#8217;t make it the language of applications today.</p>
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		<title>By: anonymous</title>
		<link>http://neosmart.net/blog/2006/and-we-thought-java-was-the-same-everywhere/#comment-3304</link>
		<dc:creator>anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Jul 2006 15:41:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Btw is Java really the top programming language as per http://www.tiobe.com/index.htm?tiobe_index ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Btw is Java really the top programming language as per <a href="http://www.tiobe.com/index.htm?tiobe_index" rel="nofollow">http://www.tiobe.com/index.htm?tiobe_index</a> ?</p>
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		<title>By: Savadeep Speaks! &#187; A reply to Computer Guru&#8217;s most excellent comment.</title>
		<link>http://neosmart.net/blog/2006/and-we-thought-java-was-the-same-everywhere/#comment-3303</link>
		<dc:creator>Savadeep Speaks! &#187; A reply to Computer Guru&#8217;s most excellent comment.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Jul 2006 15:18:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] My friends, it was of today that I noticed that Computer Guru, of the most enjoyable The NeoSmart Files blog, left a comment about my written piece about the And We Thought Java was the Same Everywhere! article. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] My friends, it was of today that I noticed that Computer Guru, of the most enjoyable The NeoSmart Files blog, left a comment about my written piece about the And We Thought Java was the Same Everywhere! article. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Savadeep Speaks! &#187; More writings on the pains of Java.</title>
		<link>http://neosmart.net/blog/2006/and-we-thought-java-was-the-same-everywhere/#comment-3277</link>
		<dc:creator>Savadeep Speaks! &#187; More writings on the pains of Java.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Jul 2006 19:32:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] My friends, it was of today that I saw this written piece that talks about the troubles one can encounter with Java. I must say, it is a written piece well timed! It was only yesterday that I wrote about how unportable Java is today and about the open source efforts to fix the problem! For a language that claims &#8220;Write Once, Run Anywhere!&#8221; the &#8220;anywhere&#8221; is a very limited anywhere! [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] My friends, it was of today that I saw this written piece that talks about the troubles one can encounter with Java. I must say, it is a written piece well timed! It was only yesterday that I wrote about how unportable Java is today and about the open source efforts to fix the problem! For a language that claims &#8220;Write Once, Run Anywhere!&#8221; the &#8220;anywhere&#8221; is a very limited anywhere! [...]</p>
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