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		<title>By: Sweetiepie</title>
		<link>http://neosmart.net/blog/2007/adults-dont-belong-on-facebook/#comment-451371</link>
		<dc:creator>Sweetiepie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 00:53:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This blog post seems a little against people doing what they want to do with their free time.  Some people enjoying chatting online, and who cares if they are over the age of thirty.  I am am thirty-one, and I am not going to stop using Facebook or Twitter just because an article tells me to do so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This blog post seems a little against people doing what they want to do with their free time.  Some people enjoying chatting online, and who cares if they are over the age of thirty.  I am am thirty-one, and I am not going to stop using Facebook or Twitter just because an article tells me to do so.</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher</title>
		<link>http://neosmart.net/blog/2007/adults-dont-belong-on-facebook/#comment-444395</link>
		<dc:creator>Christopher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 16:22:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep. I get it.  Facebook was a great social networking tool for the college set when it began.  But like most, Facebook expanded to attract a larger audience.  Just because one is now able to display tacky &quot;presents&quot; given by friends, or a comprehensive listing of their personal traits, tactfully put or not... is not so much a reflection of the demo-graphical nature of the site, maturity aside, but a much larger picture of the society we live in.  Which was at the core for the design of the site beyond Academia. Young kids will likely go to college one day.  Older people can always return to college so long as they have the time and money to do so. I work with a lot of college students at my job. Intellectual giants they are not. I was one once a college student too.  I stereotypically use the site to do research or touch bases with people too far away... I suspect Facebook&#039;s popularity has a lot to do with this capability.  And yes.  I digress... People will litter any and every site they get a hand on (have you read Twitter?) However, Facebook and most of these other social networking sites, are invaluable to the way we understand ourselves, used properly.  And just like society at large, EVERYONE takes part somehow.  To lament over Facebook is really to lament over the community in which you live.  If you do not like it, BE AN EXAMPLE for the sort of change you seek.  Like I said... I&#039;ve been using these tools for sometime now.  I do not display for the world to see things strangers have no need to see... regardless of how &quot;virtual&quot; one may excuse their platform to be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep. I get it.  Facebook was a great social networking tool for the college set when it began.  But like most, Facebook expanded to attract a larger audience.  Just because one is now able to display tacky &#8220;presents&#8221; given by friends, or a comprehensive listing of their personal traits, tactfully put or not&#8230; is not so much a reflection of the demo-graphical nature of the site, maturity aside, but a much larger picture of the society we live in.  Which was at the core for the design of the site beyond Academia. Young kids will likely go to college one day.  Older people can always return to college so long as they have the time and money to do so. I work with a lot of college students at my job. Intellectual giants they are not. I was one once a college student too.  I stereotypically use the site to do research or touch bases with people too far away&#8230; I suspect Facebook&#8217;s popularity has a lot to do with this capability.  And yes.  I digress&#8230; People will litter any and every site they get a hand on (have you read Twitter?) However, Facebook and most of these other social networking sites, are invaluable to the way we understand ourselves, used properly.  And just like society at large, EVERYONE takes part somehow.  To lament over Facebook is really to lament over the community in which you live.  If you do not like it, BE AN EXAMPLE for the sort of change you seek.  Like I said&#8230; I&#8217;ve been using these tools for sometime now.  I do not display for the world to see things strangers have no need to see&#8230; regardless of how &#8220;virtual&#8221; one may excuse their platform to be.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick Roll</title>
		<link>http://neosmart.net/blog/2007/adults-dont-belong-on-facebook/#comment-439437</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick Roll</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 15:03:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Facebook was just fine as a small website for college students. After it expanded to high schoolers and grown-ups, it has gotten horribly tacky and become an ugly mutation of MySpace. Crappy applications and breakdowns so you can&#039;t use search/pictures or view profiles at random times are just the start.

Sorry guys, but it was much better as a college site, end of story. I don&#039;t understand why grown-ups on Facebook become so angry at people who point this out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Facebook was just fine as a small website for college students. After it expanded to high schoolers and grown-ups, it has gotten horribly tacky and become an ugly mutation of MySpace. Crappy applications and breakdowns so you can&#8217;t use search/pictures or view profiles at random times are just the start.</p>
<p>Sorry guys, but it was much better as a college site, end of story. I don&#8217;t understand why grown-ups on Facebook become so angry at people who point this out.</p>
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		<title>By: Cathy E</title>
		<link>http://neosmart.net/blog/2007/adults-dont-belong-on-facebook/#comment-196282</link>
		<dc:creator>Cathy E</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jul 2008 13:57:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder if this person will so easily inactivate their account and networking when they turn 30?  Or will it suddenly be okay for the site to be for over 30s?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder if this person will so easily inactivate their account and networking when they turn 30?  Or will it suddenly be okay for the site to be for over 30s?</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher</title>
		<link>http://neosmart.net/blog/2007/adults-dont-belong-on-facebook/#comment-184954</link>
		<dc:creator>Christopher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 23:24:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The thought that technology will unarguably add to a generation gap instead of delineate it is a horrible thought indeed.  What is this person implying exactly?  That youth are somehow privileged to technology due to their age?  I have a friend from work who is in his 60&#039;s and is just now semi-retiring.  To get the man online in the first place was challenging enough, but doing so allows him to connect with others who are going through the same life patterns.  I am young enough to not be slighted by this supposition, however at what stage of my life will I be ostracized for participating in the larger global community albeit online?  Yes.  I have a Facebook account, YouTube &amp; Twitter account, Blog, et,... and will I be coerced from these social outlets due to my age by a group of people a handful of years younger than me?  Whoever thinks that hasn&#039;t thought out the full ramifications of this technological &quot;mall&quot; deplete of all ages.  Do we not go online to learn and debate and find out about each other?  So take away a demographic or two, and you are depriving the left over of their knowledge and debate and understanding of the world.  What you do essentially is reduce the world down to a one sided debate.  And to even argue this sets you up for judgment when you &quot;come of age&quot;.  I fear that as time goes on that window gets smaller and smaller.  When I was 10, I idolized the 17/18 somethings of the graduating class.  I thought they were cool.  I respected them.  I didn&#039;t, nor did I see them- backtalk and grumble about their parents or people older than them.  How a few years change.  And every consecutive generation loses something.  I thought the internet was supposed to bridge that gap, not divide things further.  Grow up Michelle Slatalla, or have you designed a world for yourself that makes you scared to?  I feel sorry for you and everyone out there who agrees with you.  You really don&#039;t make things easy for yourself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The thought that technology will unarguably add to a generation gap instead of delineate it is a horrible thought indeed.  What is this person implying exactly?  That youth are somehow privileged to technology due to their age?  I have a friend from work who is in his 60&#8217;s and is just now semi-retiring.  To get the man online in the first place was challenging enough, but doing so allows him to connect with others who are going through the same life patterns.  I am young enough to not be slighted by this supposition, however at what stage of my life will I be ostracized for participating in the larger global community albeit online?  Yes.  I have a Facebook account, YouTube &amp; Twitter account, Blog, et,&#8230; and will I be coerced from these social outlets due to my age by a group of people a handful of years younger than me?  Whoever thinks that hasn&#8217;t thought out the full ramifications of this technological &#8220;mall&#8221; deplete of all ages.  Do we not go online to learn and debate and find out about each other?  So take away a demographic or two, and you are depriving the left over of their knowledge and debate and understanding of the world.  What you do essentially is reduce the world down to a one sided debate.  And to even argue this sets you up for judgment when you &#8220;come of age&#8221;.  I fear that as time goes on that window gets smaller and smaller.  When I was 10, I idolized the 17/18 somethings of the graduating class.  I thought they were cool.  I respected them.  I didn&#8217;t, nor did I see them- backtalk and grumble about their parents or people older than them.  How a few years change.  And every consecutive generation loses something.  I thought the internet was supposed to bridge that gap, not divide things further.  Grow up Michelle Slatalla, or have you designed a world for yourself that makes you scared to?  I feel sorry for you and everyone out there who agrees with you.  You really don&#8217;t make things easy for yourself.</p>
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		<title>By: Shaye</title>
		<link>http://neosmart.net/blog/2007/adults-dont-belong-on-facebook/#comment-114789</link>
		<dc:creator>Shaye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 17:00:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The probably with your analogy is that parents COULD show up at the mall, when and how ever often they wanted to shop AND, if they chose, to check on their children.  Parents were responsible for getting their children to and from the mall (still are, btw) and are responsible for their children&#039;s ability today to be on facebook.com or myspace.com.  More often than not, parents either purchased the computers the children use to access these spaces or take them to their friends&#039; houses or other places when they have computer access.  So, why not allow parents to become involved?

Several of my child&#039;s youth advisers at church are on facebook and are &#039;friends&#039; of the church youth.  Many of the unfortunate, sad and dangerous problems children (of all ages) get involved in are a direct result of too little involvement with the larger world, the larger community which has never been completely segregated.  

Having a space that it is essential &#039;kids only&#039; is dangerous because it sets kids up in a fake environment that they will never be able to duplicate in the &#039;real&#039; world, which is where we all have to live and interact.  While you may not wish for your parents to be able to see what you do and say to others, locking them out of the process eventually does you more harm than good.  Kids need to want to grow up in our society which should mean, they want to learn and understand how to act; that won&#039;t happen as easily and seamlessly if they are isolated from community, irl and on-line.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The probably with your analogy is that parents COULD show up at the mall, when and how ever often they wanted to shop AND, if they chose, to check on their children.  Parents were responsible for getting their children to and from the mall (still are, btw) and are responsible for their children&#8217;s ability today to be on facebook.com or myspace.com.  More often than not, parents either purchased the computers the children use to access these spaces or take them to their friends&#8217; houses or other places when they have computer access.  So, why not allow parents to become involved?</p>
<p>Several of my child&#8217;s youth advisers at church are on facebook and are &#8216;friends&#8217; of the church youth.  Many of the unfortunate, sad and dangerous problems children (of all ages) get involved in are a direct result of too little involvement with the larger world, the larger community which has never been completely segregated.  </p>
<p>Having a space that it is essential &#8216;kids only&#8217; is dangerous because it sets kids up in a fake environment that they will never be able to duplicate in the &#8216;real&#8217; world, which is where we all have to live and interact.  While you may not wish for your parents to be able to see what you do and say to others, locking them out of the process eventually does you more harm than good.  Kids need to want to grow up in our society which should mean, they want to learn and understand how to act; that won&#8217;t happen as easily and seamlessly if they are isolated from community, irl and on-line.</p>
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		<title>By: kitt</title>
		<link>http://neosmart.net/blog/2007/adults-dont-belong-on-facebook/#comment-23695</link>
		<dc:creator>kitt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2007 22:30:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At what point do you throw out a person from facebook and tell them their &quot;too old&quot; to be on facebook? What happens if they have friends that are younger than them (by a year or two), but are no longer able to communicate with on the same &#039;facebook&#039; place?

What about the (socially-seemingly rare - but how rare are they really?) families that actually get along? Perhaps cousins that span different age groups that like to keep in touch, or friends of different age groups? Grandparents and grandkids to get along? Why shouldn&#039;t they be allowed to use facebook to facilitate this? Even if you restrict it to an age group, word can still get back to parents/adults (a sibling, or cousin, or friend who forgets to keep quiet about the party they&#039;re going to).
  

What is the cut-off age for &quot;anyone with children old enough to have their own Facebook&quot;? Assume boys and girls on average start puberty around 11 or 12, and can therefore give birth to a kid at that age, by 18 (child would be age 6), or 24 (child would be age 12), you would be able to have a kid that could have their own Facebook (eg. they could have their own email account and could use a computer easily). So you&#039;re suggesting facebook be open to people between the ages of 11 and 24.
  
  And how would you tell people they have to leave at the age of 24? &quot;Sorry, you&#039;re too old. Get out.&quot; I suspect there would be many people who would dislike being told such. I&#039;ve got single, techno-trendy 30-something friends who are in love with facebook. They&#039;re young, independent, free of responsibilities, and would hate to be told that they&#039;re too &quot;adult&quot; to use facebook.
  

You do realize what you&#039;re suggesting is segregation based on age? University and college is accessible to all age ranges. Even under the previous guidelines of Facebook, it would be open to all active students, which would include 70-something year old students.

Perhaps I&#039;m biased, as just barely I fall into the range of &quot;old enough to have a child to have their own Facebook&quot;. If you&#039;re so worried about your parents finding out what you&#039;re doing, you can always find ways to circumvent them. Have multiple accounts, restrict what people can see. Even if you prevent older people from entering, what about the people who are already a part of it? What happens to them 5 years down the road? 10? 20? (assuming facebook lasts that long)

Who are you to say who belongs or doesn&#039;t belong somewhere? Perhaps you&#039;re hoping facebook to be a youth group. Perhaps facebook was originally meant to be more academically oriented (geared towards colleges and universities after all), and not the &quot;omg! lol! i have toes! g2g&quot; crowd its turned out to be. But it seems like the powers that be have said its open to all (more people == more money; it is a business after all). If you&#039;re looking for a youth-only group, then I guess you&#039;ll just have to work on your own site, get some good networking in (and a way to PROVE they belong to whatever age group it is that you have in mind), stay away from money making (even though servers for millions of people will drain your wallet), and remember to kick yourself out when you hit the age limit you&#039;ve imposed. Good luck. :)

I understand you&#039;d like to keep parents/&quot;adults&quot; out, but I think any implementation would be flawed.
  
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At what point do you throw out a person from facebook and tell them their &#8220;too old&#8221; to be on facebook? What happens if they have friends that are younger than them (by a year or two), but are no longer able to communicate with on the same &#8216;facebook&#8217; place?</p>
<p>What about the (socially-seemingly rare &#8211; but how rare are they really?) families that actually get along? Perhaps cousins that span different age groups that like to keep in touch, or friends of different age groups? Grandparents and grandkids to get along? Why shouldn&#8217;t they be allowed to use facebook to facilitate this? Even if you restrict it to an age group, word can still get back to parents/adults (a sibling, or cousin, or friend who forgets to keep quiet about the party they&#8217;re going to).</p>
<p>What is the cut-off age for &#8220;anyone with children old enough to have their own Facebook&#8221;? Assume boys and girls on average start puberty around 11 or 12, and can therefore give birth to a kid at that age, by 18 (child would be age 6), or 24 (child would be age 12), you would be able to have a kid that could have their own Facebook (eg. they could have their own email account and could use a computer easily). So you&#8217;re suggesting facebook be open to people between the ages of 11 and 24.</p>
<p>  And how would you tell people they have to leave at the age of 24? &#8220;Sorry, you&#8217;re too old. Get out.&#8221; I suspect there would be many people who would dislike being told such. I&#8217;ve got single, techno-trendy 30-something friends who are in love with facebook. They&#8217;re young, independent, free of responsibilities, and would hate to be told that they&#8217;re too &#8220;adult&#8221; to use facebook.</p>
<p>You do realize what you&#8217;re suggesting is segregation based on age? University and college is accessible to all age ranges. Even under the previous guidelines of Facebook, it would be open to all active students, which would include 70-something year old students.</p>
<p>Perhaps I&#8217;m biased, as just barely I fall into the range of &#8220;old enough to have a child to have their own Facebook&#8221;. If you&#8217;re so worried about your parents finding out what you&#8217;re doing, you can always find ways to circumvent them. Have multiple accounts, restrict what people can see. Even if you prevent older people from entering, what about the people who are already a part of it? What happens to them 5 years down the road? 10? 20? (assuming facebook lasts that long)</p>
<p>Who are you to say who belongs or doesn&#8217;t belong somewhere? Perhaps you&#8217;re hoping facebook to be a youth group. Perhaps facebook was originally meant to be more academically oriented (geared towards colleges and universities after all), and not the &#8220;omg! lol! i have toes! g2g&#8221; crowd its turned out to be. But it seems like the powers that be have said its open to all (more people == more money; it is a business after all). If you&#8217;re looking for a youth-only group, then I guess you&#8217;ll just have to work on your own site, get some good networking in (and a way to PROVE they belong to whatever age group it is that you have in mind), stay away from money making (even though servers for millions of people will drain your wallet), and remember to kick yourself out when you hit the age limit you&#8217;ve imposed. Good luck. <img src='http://neosmart.net/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I understand you&#8217;d like to keep parents/&#8221;adults&#8221; out, but I think any implementation would be flawed.</p>
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		<title>By: Adults Don't Belong on Facebook... at The NeoSmart Files</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2007 09:58:31 +0000</pubDate>
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