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		<title>By: Geaf</title>
		<link>http://neosmart.net/blog/2007/goodbye-nod32-hello-kaspersky/#comment-482447</link>
		<dc:creator>Geaf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 10:39:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I found this after a google search about nod32 and kaspersky. So many people have always recommended KAV or KIS to me but I was totally hooked on and convinced by NOD32, not partly because of Leo Laporte, The Tech Guy podcast and his recommendation. Plus, when I first tried NOD32 I was so impressed by the seemingly insignificant memory footprint and low CPU usage, I bought into it right away.
Lately however, during a couple of momentary lapses in reason on my part, I opened some files without first scanning them separately. The first time it happened I had NOD32 running to scan opened or created files, also the processes running in memory. Suddenly I noticed myself, a huge increase in CPU usage. I opened up my task manager replacement program and saw some obviously randomly named files using a lot of CPU. names like Rg57Klm00.exe running from either C:/ or C:/windows or a TEMP folder. There were four of them at one point and I killed each one whereupon a new one would return and keep re-spawning the others. It took some doing to kill off the right processes in order to stop this self perpetuation cycle!!
Then I noticed four hidden processes of IE windows. I fired up an http monitor and saw that these browser windows were all going to Russian urls. Two of them didn&#039;t work when I visited them and the other two had some kind of forms on them, nothing written but I guessed it was probably some kind of stolen data exchange for the virus to report any data it found on the host PC. I then decided to rip the router Ethernet cable out and not allow any more virus activity to use the network until I fixed it!
In the end, the virus had downloaded other viruses and I traced back to what I think happened. It was a lot of stuff to try to work out and the viruses had done so much damage that I ended up reinstalling Windows. :(
Yet all throughout the whole process, NOD32 was happily sitting there, scanning everything, yet not warning of virus activity at all!
I just switched to KAV 2010 and I have to say, so far, it has been excellent!
Very small memory imprint so NOD32 no longer wins on that score. In fact NOD32 was actually starting to become a lot harder on the system than it ever used to be, since going up to version 4.
In conclusion, KAV seems to be better and comes with very high recommendations. It has warned me off of a few viruses already, even finding one in a file I had on my HDD that NOD32 must have missed every time it did a full scan...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found this after a google search about nod32 and kaspersky. So many people have always recommended KAV or KIS to me but I was totally hooked on and convinced by NOD32, not partly because of Leo Laporte, The Tech Guy podcast and his recommendation. Plus, when I first tried NOD32 I was so impressed by the seemingly insignificant memory footprint and low CPU usage, I bought into it right away.<br />
Lately however, during a couple of momentary lapses in reason on my part, I opened some files without first scanning them separately. The first time it happened I had NOD32 running to scan opened or created files, also the processes running in memory. Suddenly I noticed myself, a huge increase in CPU usage. I opened up my task manager replacement program and saw some obviously randomly named files using a lot of CPU. names like Rg57Klm00.exe running from either C:/ or C:/windows or a TEMP folder. There were four of them at one point and I killed each one whereupon a new one would return and keep re-spawning the others. It took some doing to kill off the right processes in order to stop this self perpetuation cycle!!<br />
Then I noticed four hidden processes of IE windows. I fired up an http monitor and saw that these browser windows were all going to Russian urls. Two of them didn&#8217;t work when I visited them and the other two had some kind of forms on them, nothing written but I guessed it was probably some kind of stolen data exchange for the virus to report any data it found on the host PC. I then decided to rip the router Ethernet cable out and not allow any more virus activity to use the network until I fixed it!<br />
In the end, the virus had downloaded other viruses and I traced back to what I think happened. It was a lot of stuff to try to work out and the viruses had done so much damage that I ended up reinstalling Windows. <img src='http://neosmart.net/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
Yet all throughout the whole process, NOD32 was happily sitting there, scanning everything, yet not warning of virus activity at all!<br />
I just switched to KAV 2010 and I have to say, so far, it has been excellent!<br />
Very small memory imprint so NOD32 no longer wins on that score. In fact NOD32 was actually starting to become a lot harder on the system than it ever used to be, since going up to version 4.<br />
In conclusion, KAV seems to be better and comes with very high recommendations. It has warned me off of a few viruses already, even finding one in a file I had on my HDD that NOD32 must have missed every time it did a full scan&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Usdating</title>
		<link>http://neosmart.net/blog/2007/goodbye-nod32-hello-kaspersky/#comment-472155</link>
		<dc:creator>Usdating</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jan 2010 22:44:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this information is great to me!! thank you guys for your awesome posts As Nick says, iA?ll re-read it again, and again ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this information is great to me!! thank you guys for your awesome posts As Nick says, iA?ll re-read it again, and again &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: PC guru rank 1</title>
		<link>http://neosmart.net/blog/2007/goodbye-nod32-hello-kaspersky/#comment-452436</link>
		<dc:creator>PC guru rank 1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 19:33:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nod 32</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nod 32</p>
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		<title>By: John Smith</title>
		<link>http://neosmart.net/blog/2007/goodbye-nod32-hello-kaspersky/#comment-452406</link>
		<dc:creator>John Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 13:05:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>October 2009, I had a horrible Virut.NBP attack. 

Of course NOD32 never saw it coming, I lost all my EXEs, etc... switching to KIS 2010

NOD32 4.0 is really bad. Kaspersky continues to improve</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>October 2009, I had a horrible Virut.NBP attack. </p>
<p>Of course NOD32 never saw it coming, I lost all my EXEs, etc&#8230; switching to KIS 2010</p>
<p>NOD32 4.0 is really bad. Kaspersky continues to improve</p>
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		<title>By: Ivan</title>
		<link>http://neosmart.net/blog/2007/goodbye-nod32-hello-kaspersky/#comment-429085</link>
		<dc:creator>Ivan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 08:21:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, 

I unfortunatelly have to agree with you... I have been using NOD32 for years and years now.... Recommending it to all of my friends and relatives - so I must have brought them chunk of money myslef... One thing is - I never needed their assistance until recently when I dealt with horrific experience... I am graphic designer, not PC guru but I would definetely not call myslef beginner (which is what their tech supprt called me)... I am not going to go into details but they were fast to blame my machine, windows, drivers, god almighty himself but it was by no mean Eset error... So thank you for this post, I will be defintely switching to Kaspersky - NOD32 if you guys are reading this post get your act together and sort out your cusomter support!!! No matter how big company is it only lives as long as customers are buying product... If I would treat my clients the way you treated me (and lots of other people from what I read here) I would be gone loooong time ago....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, </p>
<p>I unfortunatelly have to agree with you&#8230; I have been using NOD32 for years and years now&#8230;. Recommending it to all of my friends and relatives &#8211; so I must have brought them chunk of money myslef&#8230; One thing is &#8211; I never needed their assistance until recently when I dealt with horrific experience&#8230; I am graphic designer, not PC guru but I would definetely not call myslef beginner (which is what their tech supprt called me)&#8230; I am not going to go into details but they were fast to blame my machine, windows, drivers, god almighty himself but it was by no mean Eset error&#8230; So thank you for this post, I will be defintely switching to Kaspersky &#8211; NOD32 if you guys are reading this post get your act together and sort out your cusomter support!!! No matter how big company is it only lives as long as customers are buying product&#8230; If I would treat my clients the way you treated me (and lots of other people from what I read here) I would be gone loooong time ago&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Marta</title>
		<link>http://neosmart.net/blog/2007/goodbye-nod32-hello-kaspersky/#comment-429070</link>
		<dc:creator>Marta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 06:26:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,

How would you compare Eset NOD32/Eset Smart Security and Kaspersky AV/Kaspersky KIS? I an trying to find out some opinions from direct users of both of the antivirus software.
Thank you in advance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>How would you compare Eset NOD32/Eset Smart Security and Kaspersky AV/Kaspersky KIS? I an trying to find out some opinions from direct users of both of the antivirus software.<br />
Thank you in advance.</p>
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		<title>By: anders</title>
		<link>http://neosmart.net/blog/2007/goodbye-nod32-hello-kaspersky/#comment-236180</link>
		<dc:creator>anders</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 19:48:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been using F secure for several years without any problem. I had a plan to try Kaspersky but after reading the above comment I am afraid to try any new Antivirus Software. I like F secure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been using F secure for several years without any problem. I had a plan to try Kaspersky but after reading the above comment I am afraid to try any new Antivirus Software. I like F secure.</p>
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		<title>By: Brent</title>
		<link>http://neosmart.net/blog/2007/goodbye-nod32-hello-kaspersky/#comment-210223</link>
		<dc:creator>Brent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 16:59:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to agree with the above poster (The One) I have used NOD32 &amp; have even recommended it &amp; installed it on many of my friends &amp; families machines; the other day I got a trojan (ZLOB IIRC) even though I make it a habit to put D/L&#039;s into a desktop file &amp; scan them with NOD32 before opening. I scanned this file as usual &amp; NOD said it was clean....opened it &amp; *BAM* there were the nasties. NOD32 caught some of it after it was opened but it still affected me; I.E. desktop image changed, task manager missing, start up menu changed, no access to My Computer/C-drive/documents etc.

 I used Firefox with scripts disabled (my usual browser) to find the cure because the IE-7 was affected by this trojan as well &amp; was redirecting, anyway I used a bunch of FREE programs to rid myself of this garbage since my two pay services failed me in my hour of need (ESET NOD32 &amp; PC TOOLS SPYWARE DOCTOR) The moderators on &quot;wilders security forums&quot; are nothing more than NOD32 cheerleaders &amp; pompous, arrogant replies are the norm for them from all I&#039;ve read on their site; any problems with NOD32 &amp; you&#039;re painted as a villain....shame on you ESET.

 I&#039;ve been a faithful user for years but I&#039;m now shopping for an alternative to NOD32 - GOODBYE ESET until you can get your act together!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to agree with the above poster (The One) I have used NOD32 &amp; have even recommended it &amp; installed it on many of my friends &amp; families machines; the other day I got a trojan (ZLOB IIRC) even though I make it a habit to put D/L&#8217;s into a desktop file &amp; scan them with NOD32 before opening. I scanned this file as usual &amp; NOD said it was clean&#8230;.opened it &amp; *BAM* there were the nasties. NOD32 caught some of it after it was opened but it still affected me; I.E. desktop image changed, task manager missing, start up menu changed, no access to My Computer/C-drive/documents etc.</p>
<p> I used Firefox with scripts disabled (my usual browser) to find the cure because the IE-7 was affected by this trojan as well &amp; was redirecting, anyway I used a bunch of FREE programs to rid myself of this garbage since my two pay services failed me in my hour of need (ESET NOD32 &amp; PC TOOLS SPYWARE DOCTOR) The moderators on &#8220;wilders security forums&#8221; are nothing more than NOD32 cheerleaders &amp; pompous, arrogant replies are the norm for them from all I&#8217;ve read on their site; any problems with NOD32 &amp; you&#8217;re painted as a villain&#8230;.shame on you ESET.</p>
<p> I&#8217;ve been a faithful user for years but I&#8217;m now shopping for an alternative to NOD32 &#8211; GOODBYE ESET until you can get your act together!</p>
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		<title>By: The One</title>
		<link>http://neosmart.net/blog/2007/goodbye-nod32-hello-kaspersky/#comment-78648</link>
		<dc:creator>The One</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 00:14:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been using nod32 for many years (version 2.7). And a few months ago I decided to upgrade to the latest version, nice interface and all but a month later I noticed my computer was not performing as well. Uninstalled nod32 and installed kaspersky 7 antivirus and it detected about 6 viruses. I have been using nod32 for many many years but it just seems that this time that kaspersky is currently the way to go until nod32 get back on their game.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been using nod32 for many years (version 2.7). And a few months ago I decided to upgrade to the latest version, nice interface and all but a month later I noticed my computer was not performing as well. Uninstalled nod32 and installed kaspersky 7 antivirus and it detected about 6 viruses. I have been using nod32 for many many years but it just seems that this time that kaspersky is currently the way to go until nod32 get back on their game.</p>
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		<title>By: andre</title>
		<link>http://neosmart.net/blog/2007/goodbye-nod32-hello-kaspersky/#comment-69839</link>
		<dc:creator>andre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 12:10:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you can buy hir the latest and original kaspersky w/ 3 yrs license key...www.payloadz.com...i bet you its very genuine...coz i bought it hir...the man selling hir is from kaspersky lab..

very cheap compared from the product at kaspersky lab…its very great..i luv it much…updates is every hour…

&lt;em&gt;Editor&#039;s note: Payloadz seems to be on the up and up. Local legal restrictions may apply regarding the reselling of computer licenses, but it&#039;s not an illegal downloads/warez/scam site or anything of that sort as far as we can tell.&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you can buy hir the latest and original kaspersky w/ 3 yrs license key&#8230;www.payloadz.com&#8230;i bet you its very genuine&#8230;coz i bought it hir&#8230;the man selling hir is from kaspersky lab..</p>
<p>very cheap compared from the product at kaspersky lab…its very great..i luv it much…updates is every hour…</p>
<p><em>Editor&#8217;s note: Payloadz seems to be on the up and up. Local legal restrictions may apply regarding the reselling of computer licenses, but it&#8217;s not an illegal downloads/warez/scam site or anything of that sort as far as we can tell.</em></p>
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		<title>By: Computer Guru</title>
		<link>http://neosmart.net/blog/2007/goodbye-nod32-hello-kaspersky/#comment-64315</link>
		<dc:creator>Computer Guru</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 09:59:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m only using Kaspersky AV, but I hear the Kaspersky Internet Security Suite is pretty good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m only using Kaspersky AV, but I hear the Kaspersky Internet Security Suite is pretty good.</p>
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		<title>By: Les</title>
		<link>http://neosmart.net/blog/2007/goodbye-nod32-hello-kaspersky/#comment-64286</link>
		<dc:creator>Les</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 09:06:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the tip. I&#039;m currently running a personal firewall, NOD 32, and AVG, so I dream of a single program that can do it all. I&#039;m willing to give Kaspersky another shot. How good is the spam filtering?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the tip. I&#8217;m currently running a personal firewall, NOD 32, and AVG, so I dream of a single program that can do it all. I&#8217;m willing to give Kaspersky another shot. How good is the spam filtering?</p>
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		<title>By: Computer Guru</title>
		<link>http://neosmart.net/blog/2007/goodbye-nod32-hello-kaspersky/#comment-64216</link>
		<dc:creator>Computer Guru</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 06:38:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You should check out Kaspersky 7, they&#039;ve totally overhauled the user interface - which has been one of the reasons we were so hesitant to recommend it before v7 came out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You should check out Kaspersky 7, they&#8217;ve totally overhauled the user interface &#8211; which has been one of the reasons we were so hesitant to recommend it before v7 came out.</p>
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		<title>By: Les</title>
		<link>http://neosmart.net/blog/2007/goodbye-nod32-hello-kaspersky/#comment-63663</link>
		<dc:creator>Les</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 09:50:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I adopted NOD32 over Kaspersky after a pro recommended it and because I found the Kaspersky interface too complicated. NOD32 has failed to find Trojans twice. The first time was back in June, and the exact Trojan that hit me, I found out,&#160;had been listed by McAfee and several other AV sites since the previous November. I never got a response from E-set that indicated that anyone was even listening. This time I didn&#039;t even bother to try to contact them. (Admittedly the Trojan seems to have&#160;been a very recent variant - but AVG Anti-Spyware detected it with no problem.)

NOD32 doesn&#039;t seem to understand that TRUST is what it&#039;s all about. They should bend over backwards when someone reports an undetected virus. In my experience, the people who handled my e-mails could barely speak English, simply sending stock messages that didn&#039;t apply to the situation. Yet where marketing is concerned, E-set has it all together - very slick. It doesn&#039;t add up. As a result, my trust has been destroyed.

See the thread below.&#160;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://forums.maddoktor2.com/index.php?showtopic=10095&amp;view=getlastpost&quot;&gt;http://forums.maddoktor2.com/index.php?showtopic=10095&amp;view=getlastpost&lt;/a&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I adopted NOD32 over Kaspersky after a pro recommended it and because I found the Kaspersky interface too complicated. NOD32 has failed to find Trojans twice. The first time was back in June, and the exact Trojan that hit me, I found out,&nbsp;had been listed by McAfee and several other AV sites since the previous November. I never got a response from E-set that indicated that anyone was even listening. This time I didn&#8217;t even bother to try to contact them. (Admittedly the Trojan seems to have&nbsp;been a very recent variant &#8211; but AVG Anti-Spyware detected it with no problem.)</p>
<p>NOD32 doesn&#8217;t seem to understand that TRUST is what it&#8217;s all about. They should bend over backwards when someone reports an undetected virus. In my experience, the people who handled my e-mails could barely speak English, simply sending stock messages that didn&#8217;t apply to the situation. Yet where marketing is concerned, E-set has it all together &#8211; very slick. It doesn&#8217;t add up. As a result, my trust has been destroyed.</p>
<p>See the thread below.&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="http://forums.maddoktor2.com/index.php?showtopic=10095&amp;view=getlastpost">http://forums.maddoktor2.com/index.php?showtopic=10095&amp;view=getlastpost</a></p>
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		<title>By: anonymous</title>
		<link>http://neosmart.net/blog/2007/goodbye-nod32-hello-kaspersky/#comment-46069</link>
		<dc:creator>anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 21:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks for letting us all know and do let us know if you let go of Kaspersky and find a better one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks for letting us all know and do let us know if you let go of Kaspersky and find a better one.</p>
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