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		<title>By: import this. &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Spoiled by WordPress</title>
		<link>http://neosmart.net/blog/2007/how-wordpress-spoils-developers/#comment-13271</link>
		<dc:creator>import this. &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Spoiled by WordPress</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Feb 2007 19:16:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] at The NeoSmart Files, they explain how WordPress spoils developers: &#8230;but every single time it boiled down to WP: No matter what the program, audience, or goal, [...]</description>
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		<title>By: News - Software Headlines</title>
		<link>http://neosmart.net/blog/2007/how-wordpress-spoils-developers/#comment-12495</link>
		<dc:creator>News - Software Headlines</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Feb 2007 02:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;!--%kramer-ref-pre%--&gt;[...] Z. &#124; 2007/1/31 21:59:26   A principios de enero, alguien en neosmart publicaba un artículo llamado Cómo WordPress malcría a los desarrolladores, en el que planteaban una posición que probablemente muchas personas ya habían pensado pero que [...]&lt;!--%kramer-ref-post%--&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--%kramer-ref-pre%-->[...] Z. | 2007/1/31 21:59:26   A principios de enero, alguien en neosmart publicaba un artículo llamado Cómo WordPress malcría a los desarrolladores, en el que planteaban una posición que probablemente muchas personas ya habían pensado pero que [...]<!--%kramer-ref-post%--></p>
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		<title>By: WordPress y Habari &#8212; yukei.net</title>
		<link>http://neosmart.net/blog/2007/how-wordpress-spoils-developers/#comment-12292</link>
		<dc:creator>WordPress y Habari &#8212; yukei.net</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Feb 2007 03:59:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] principios de enero, alguien en neosmart publicaba un artículo llamado Cómo WordPress malcría a los desarrolladores, en el que planteaban una posición que probablemente muchas personas ya habían pensado pero que [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] principios de enero, alguien en neosmart publicaba un artículo llamado Cómo WordPress malcría a los desarrolladores, en el que planteaban una posición que probablemente muchas personas ya habían pensado pero que [...]</p>
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		<title>By: king game</title>
		<link>http://neosmart.net/blog/2007/how-wordpress-spoils-developers/#comment-12093</link>
		<dc:creator>king game</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jan 2007 01:38:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks</p>
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		<title>By: Is it time to Habari? &#183; Emporium Blog</title>
		<link>http://neosmart.net/blog/2007/how-wordpress-spoils-developers/#comment-11964</link>
		<dc:creator>Is it time to Habari? &#183; Emporium Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jan 2007 12:42:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;!--%kramer-ref-pre%--&gt;[...] you like to know more, this article is a good read too. Not to say it&#8217;s impossible, but Wordpress has it&#8217;s monopoly and [...]&lt;!--%kramer-ref-post%--&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--%kramer-ref-pre%-->[...] you like to know more, this article is a good read too. Not to say it&#8217;s impossible, but Wordpress has it&#8217;s monopoly and [...]<!--%kramer-ref-post%--></p>
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		<title>By: Kisakookoo</title>
		<link>http://neosmart.net/blog/2007/how-wordpress-spoils-developers/#comment-11871</link>
		<dc:creator>Kisakookoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jan 2007 18:16:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi! Why I can&#039;t fill my info in profile? Can somebody help me?
My login is Kisakookoo!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi! Why I can&#8217;t fill my info in profile? Can somebody help me?<br />
My login is Kisakookoo!</p>
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		<title>By: Open Letter to The Guru &#171; Habari Wank!</title>
		<link>http://neosmart.net/blog/2007/how-wordpress-spoils-developers/#comment-11833</link>
		<dc:creator>Open Letter to The Guru &#171; Habari Wank!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jan 2007 22:47:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;!--%kramer-ref-pre%--&gt;[...] likes a turncoat. I won&#8217;t trust you until you have a Habari tattoo. I DON&#8217;T CARE IF WE DON&#8217;T HAVE [...]&lt;!--%kramer-ref-post%--&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--%kramer-ref-pre%-->[...] likes a turncoat. I won&#8217;t trust you until you have a Habari tattoo. I DON&#8217;T CARE IF WE DON&#8217;T HAVE [...]<!--%kramer-ref-post%--></p>
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		<title>By: Why Habari? at The NeoSmart Files</title>
		<link>http://neosmart.net/blog/2007/how-wordpress-spoils-developers/#comment-11723</link>
		<dc:creator>Why Habari? at The NeoSmart Files</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jan 2007 09:24:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] forever - even though it isn&#8217;t. WordPress is my first-love when it comes to blogging, you may have noticed. But yeah, I left WordPress for Habari [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] forever &#8211; even though it isn&#8217;t. WordPress is my first-love when it comes to blogging, you may have noticed. But yeah, I left WordPress for Habari [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jacques Distler</title>
		<link>http://neosmart.net/blog/2007/how-wordpress-spoils-developers/#comment-11594</link>
		<dc:creator>Jacques Distler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jan 2007 17:10:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Being open-source is of dubious benefit if the developers are not responsive to submitted patches. Yes, you can always fork the project. But the costs of doing so are high.

I found MovableType&#039;s developers infinitely more responsive to my patches and suggestions than WordPress&#039;s developers. Admittedly, I&#039;m something of an outlier, doing XHTML+MathML, so my needs may be viewed as &quot;too specialized&quot; by the WordPress team. Still, that doesn&#039;t explain why MT (a commercial project) should have proven more accomodating.

&#160;I admit that I more-or-less gave up on trying to develop for WordPress&#160; after 2.0 came out. Perhaps things have improved since then. Still, I find it a little hard&#160; to credit its purported status as developer-nirvana.

&#160;

&lt;blockquote&gt;It’s lite, XHTML-valid, and looks great&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&#160;

It&#039;s not even well-formed (much less valid) XHTML. Not that anyone cares, but please ...&#160;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Being open-source is of dubious benefit if the developers are not responsive to submitted patches. Yes, you can always fork the project. But the costs of doing so are high.</p>
<p>I found MovableType&#8217;s developers infinitely more responsive to my patches and suggestions than WordPress&#8217;s developers. Admittedly, I&#8217;m something of an outlier, doing XHTML+MathML, so my needs may be viewed as &#8220;too specialized&#8221; by the WordPress team. Still, that doesn&#8217;t explain why MT (a commercial project) should have proven more accomodating.</p>
<p>&nbsp;I admit that I more-or-less gave up on trying to develop for WordPress&nbsp; after 2.0 came out. Perhaps things have improved since then. Still, I find it a little hard&nbsp; to credit its purported status as developer-nirvana.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote><p>It’s lite, XHTML-valid, and looks great</p></blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not even well-formed (much less valid) XHTML. Not that anyone cares, but please &#8230;&nbsp;</p>
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		<title>By: The WordPress Community &#183; Episode 18: Habari, WordPress 2.0.6 released, WordPress 2.1 enters Beta</title>
		<link>http://neosmart.net/blog/2007/how-wordpress-spoils-developers/#comment-11578</link>
		<dc:creator>The WordPress Community &#183; Episode 18: Habari, WordPress 2.0.6 released, WordPress 2.1 enters Beta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jan 2007 21:50:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The NeoSmart Files offered some gushing praise of WordPress, calling it, &#8220;Undoubtedly the single most influential tool in the blog-boom, WordPress has [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The NeoSmart Files offered some gushing praise of WordPress, calling it, &#8220;Undoubtedly the single most influential tool in the blog-boom, WordPress has [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Educated</title>
		<link>http://neosmart.net/blog/2007/how-wordpress-spoils-developers/#comment-11409</link>
		<dc:creator>Educated</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jan 2007 01:38:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;WordPress: Market Full, Competition Unrivaled&lt;/strong&gt;

We all know that WordPress is pretty much the best (or at least best open-source) blogging platform today. It costs you practically nothing to use it (on WordPress.com, it&#8217;s absolutely free), and all you need to start blogging, not counting the t...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>WordPress: Market Full, Competition Unrivaled</strong></p>
<p>We all know that WordPress is pretty much the best (or at least best open-source) blogging platform today. It costs you practically nothing to use it (on WordPress.com, it&#8217;s absolutely free), and all you need to start blogging, not counting the t&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Habari at K2 DK</title>
		<link>http://neosmart.net/blog/2007/how-wordpress-spoils-developers/#comment-11314</link>
		<dc:creator>Habari at K2 DK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jan 2007 23:37:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] i organisationsstruktur og ejerskab. Du kan selv læse mere på de respektive sider, for eks. Neosmart: How WordPress Spoils Developers, Neosmart: A Clarification on WordPress og DrBacchus: [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] i organisationsstruktur og ejerskab. Du kan selv læse mere på de respektive sider, for eks. Neosmart: How WordPress Spoils Developers, Neosmart: A Clarification on WordPress og DrBacchus: [...]</p>
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		<title>By: CorKy.NeT Feeds</title>
		<link>http://neosmart.net/blog/2007/how-wordpress-spoils-developers/#comment-11076</link>
		<dc:creator>CorKy.NeT Feeds</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jan 2007 19:52:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;!--%kramer-ref-pre%--&gt;[...] I ran across a post by Matt Mullenweg, the developer of Wordpress, linking to a rant about how Wordpress &#8221;spoils&quot; developers. Behind this diggable title is a confused argument that Wordpress is so good that (a) it makes [...]&lt;!--%kramer-ref-post%--&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--%kramer-ref-pre%-->[...] I ran across a post by Matt Mullenweg, the developer of Wordpress, linking to a rant about how Wordpress &#8221;spoils&#34; developers. Behind this diggable title is a confused argument that Wordpress is so good that (a) it makes [...]<!--%kramer-ref-post%--></p>
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		<title>By: DrBacchus&#8217; Journal &#187; Meritocracy</title>
		<link>http://neosmart.net/blog/2007/how-wordpress-spoils-developers/#comment-11060</link>
		<dc:creator>DrBacchus&#8217; Journal &#187; Meritocracy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jan 2007 16:40:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;!--%kramer-ref-pre%--&gt;[...] talk about whether Habari will crush Wordpress are really beside the point. The real issues are whether we&#8217;ll produce a compelling product, [...]&lt;!--%kramer-ref-post%--&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--%kramer-ref-pre%-->[...] talk about whether Habari will crush Wordpress are really beside the point. The real issues are whether we&#8217;ll produce a compelling product, [...]<!--%kramer-ref-post%--></p>
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		<title>By: Computer Guru</title>
		<link>http://neosmart.net/blog/2007/how-wordpress-spoils-developers/#comment-11049</link>
		<dc:creator>Computer Guru</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jan 2007 11:34:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I agree Arvind, Movable Type is an excellent platform, with awesome staff. But the fact remains, while you guys may influence a couple of decisions or more, &lt;em&gt;every single day&lt;/em&gt; developers &lt;strong&gt;and &lt;/strong&gt;users alike influence WordPress in the WP-Hackers mailing list. The only thing that puts normal users off is the fact that it&#039;s a mailing list, not a forum. But almost all new features and aspects are discussed there before they ever happen, and users have an opportunity to shape WP daily.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;However, it&#039;s not all in the users&#039; hands, even in WP. The best known example is perhaps when Matt single-handedly blocked a motion to add inline PHP documentation to WordPress &amp; its functions for no reason. He did later (just last month) allow it, but I guess it kind of defined where and how decisions are made.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;To be fair, most Matt and the rest of the Automattic team are generally open-minded and are constantly polling the users&#039; and developers&#039; opinions on Matt &amp; Ryan&#039;s blogs, and the WP-Hackers mailing list. At the end of the day, you can&#039;t really deny that users &lt;em&gt;in general&lt;/em&gt; have more influence over an open source project than a closed source one. I don&#039;t for a minute claim that MT is close-minded or a bad platform, to the contrary, I only have praise for MT - it&#039;s just that I have more praise for WP though.
&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree Arvind, Movable Type is an excellent platform, with awesome staff. But the fact remains, while you guys may influence a couple of decisions or more, <em>every single day</em> developers <strong>and </strong>users alike influence WordPress in the WP-Hackers mailing list. The only thing that puts normal users off is the fact that it&#8217;s a mailing list, not a forum. But almost all new features and aspects are discussed there before they ever happen, and users have an opportunity to shape WP daily.
</p>
<p>However, it&#8217;s not all in the users&#8217; hands, even in WP. The best known example is perhaps when Matt single-handedly blocked a motion to add inline PHP documentation to WordPress &amp; its functions for no reason. He did later (just last month) allow it, but I guess it kind of defined where and how decisions are made.
</p>
<p>To be fair, most Matt and the rest of the Automattic team are generally open-minded and are constantly polling the users&#8217; and developers&#8217; opinions on Matt &amp; Ryan&#8217;s blogs, and the WP-Hackers mailing list. At the end of the day, you can&#8217;t really deny that users <em>in general</em> have more influence over an open source project than a closed source one. I don&#8217;t for a minute claim that MT is close-minded or a bad platform, to the contrary, I only have praise for MT &#8211; it&#8217;s just that I have more praise for WP though.</p>
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