Comments on: Mono Doesn’t Get Enough Credit http://neosmart.net/blog/2007/mono-doesnt-get-enough-credit/ Connecting Ideas Wed, 04 Nov 2009 23:13:35 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: John http://neosmart.net/blog/2007/mono-doesnt-get-enough-credit/#comment-308024 John Tue, 25 Nov 2008 08:08:03 +0000 http://neosmart.net/blog/2007/mono-doesnt-get-enough-credit/#comment-308024 I am glad to see Moonlight or Silverlight as Flash’s competition; monopoly is never good, whether it is Microsoft, Adobe or anyone. We have seen much cool Flash based Video mashup web sites, check out this one. This seems to be the first site that I have come across which is based in Silverlight 2. UltraLearn.com is using Silverlight 2 / Moonlight 2 in their web based Ultra Mashup studio. Their Studio allows video, audio, images, polls, surveys to be mashed up and synced with PowerPoint or other presentations , add chapters, marker and search keywords. Web Site http://ultralearn.com/ultralearn/MashupStudio.aspx I am glad to see Moonlight or Silverlight as Flash’s competition; monopoly is never good, whether it is Microsoft, Adobe or anyone.

We have seen much cool Flash based Video mashup web sites, check out this one. This seems to be the first site that I have come across which is based in Silverlight 2.

UltraLearn.com is using Silverlight 2 / Moonlight 2 in their web based Ultra Mashup studio. Their Studio allows video, audio, images, polls, surveys to be mashed up and synced with PowerPoint or other presentations , add chapters, marker and search keywords.

Web Site http://ultralearn.com/ultralearn/MashupStudio.aspx

]]> By: KHIMICH http://neosmart.net/blog/2007/mono-doesnt-get-enough-credit/#comment-65468 KHIMICH Thu, 08 Nov 2007 22:53:39 +0000 http://neosmart.net/blog/2007/mono-doesnt-get-enough-credit/#comment-65468 [...] Article Next article Khimich::Next Article Next article Khimich::Next Article Next article Khimich::Next Article Next [...] [...] Article Next article Khimich::Next Article Next article Khimich::Next Article Next article Khimich::Next Article Next [...]

]]> By: Top Unix News » Moonlight, the 100% Compatible Silverlight Implementation for Linux http://neosmart.net/blog/2007/mono-doesnt-get-enough-credit/#comment-61413 Top Unix News » Moonlight, the 100% Compatible Silverlight Implementation for Linux Thu, 01 Nov 2007 14:32:41 +0000 http://neosmart.net/blog/2007/mono-doesnt-get-enough-credit/#comment-61413 [...] read more | digg story [...] [...] read more | digg story [...]

]]> By: „Adobe“ gali imtis kurti „Microsoft Office“ konkurentà / IT / lrytas.lt http://neosmart.net/blog/2007/mono-doesnt-get-enough-credit/#comment-39624 „Adobe“ gali imtis kurti „Microsoft Office“ konkurentà / IT / lrytas.lt Fri, 17 Aug 2007 12:44:26 +0000 http://neosmart.net/blog/2007/mono-doesnt-get-enough-credit/#comment-39624 [...] kûrëjø komandà, kad ðie pristatytø jø sukurtà „Silverlight“ versijà, skirtà „Linux“ sistemoms – „Moonlight“. [...]

]]> By: Does mono not get the credit that it deserves? - Ubuntu Forums http://neosmart.net/blog/2007/mono-doesnt-get-enough-credit/#comment-35519 Does mono not get the credit that it deserves? - Ubuntu Forums Mon, 06 Aug 2007 07:44:14 +0000 http://neosmart.net/blog/2007/mono-doesnt-get-enough-credit/#comment-35519 [...] And python is one of the languages that is supported. Here is the article that got me thinking: http://neosmart.net/blog/2007/mono-d...enough-credit/ [...] [...] And python is one of the languages that is supported. Here is the article that got me thinking: http://neosmart.net/blog/2007/mono-d…enough-credit/ [...]

]]> By: Blogmarkok | Weblabor http://neosmart.net/blog/2007/mono-doesnt-get-enough-credit/#comment-32196 Blogmarkok | Weblabor Fri, 20 Jul 2007 07:55:01 +0000 http://neosmart.net/blog/2007/mono-doesnt-get-enough-credit/#comment-32196 [...] 27. (sze), 20.45 – Blogmarkok A Moonlight nyílt forrású Silverlight implementációról látogatásA hozzászóláshoz regisztráció és belépés [...] [...] 27. (sze), 20.45 – Blogmarkok A Moonlight nyílt forrású Silverlight implementációról látogatásA hozzászóláshoz regisztráció és belépés [...]

]]> By: Linux News Blog: Moonlight, the 100% Compatible Silverlight Implementation for Linux http://neosmart.net/blog/2007/mono-doesnt-get-enough-credit/#comment-30546 Linux News Blog: Moonlight, the 100% Compatible Silverlight Implementation for Linux Fri, 13 Jul 2007 07:31:05 +0000 http://neosmart.net/blog/2007/mono-doesnt-get-enough-credit/#comment-30546 [...] focus on Windows and OS X, the Mono Team comes to the rescue once more with the Moonlight Project.read more | digg [...] [...] focus on Windows and OS X, the Mono Team comes to the rescue once more with the Moonlight Project.read more | digg [...]

]]> By: Mono Doesn’t Get Enough Credit at The NeoSmart Files http://neosmart.net/blog/2007/mono-doesnt-get-enough-credit/#comment-29171 Mono Doesn’t Get Enough Credit at The NeoSmart Files Fri, 06 Jul 2007 13:54:25 +0000 http://neosmart.net/blog/2007/mono-doesnt-get-enough-credit/#comment-29171 [...] Mono Doesn’t Get Enough Credit Published June 23rd, 2007 in Linux, Macintosh, Programming Tags: .NET Framework, Mono, Moonlight, Silverlight [...] [...] Mono Doesn’t Get Enough Credit Published June 23rd, 2007 in Linux, Macintosh, Programming Tags: .NET Framework, Mono, Moonlight, Silverlight [...]

]]> By: Assemblix - 27.6.2007 - MikroPC.net http://neosmart.net/blog/2007/mono-doesnt-get-enough-credit/#comment-28324 Assemblix - 27.6.2007 - MikroPC.net Mon, 02 Jul 2007 12:11:09 +0000 http://neosmart.net/blog/2007/mono-doesnt-get-enough-credit/#comment-28324 [...] Mono doesn’t get enough credit NeoSmart Silverlight julkaistiin Linuxille, piittaako kukaan? Vai pelätäänkö taas Microsoftin vaikutteita? [...]

]]> By: overview by linuxer (on reddit.com) http://neosmart.net/blog/2007/mono-doesnt-get-enough-credit/#comment-26194 overview by linuxer (on reddit.com) Mon, 25 Jun 2007 13:11:47 +0000 http://neosmart.net/blog/2007/mono-doesnt-get-enough-credit/#comment-26194 [...] Mono Doesn't Get Enough Credit (neosmart.net) [...] [...] Mono Doesn't Get Enough Credit (neosmart.net) [...]

]]> By: NoWhereMan http://neosmart.net/blog/2007/mono-doesnt-get-enough-credit/#comment-26058 NoWhereMan Mon, 25 Jun 2007 06:56:16 +0000 http://neosmart.net/blog/2007/mono-doesnt-get-enough-credit/#comment-26058 I agree with BTreeHugger. Miguel and all of the other good guys of Mono deserve respect for how little time took to them to arrive where they are with Silverlight, but now, really, who needed it? What really annoys me is that they're doing a big, fat gift to someone who never ever gifted anything (I mean, open source) to the community, and who now can say "hey worldwide devs, you know that .NET is sooo multiplatform that runs on Linux"? They didn't care about Linux at all, they provided their Win and Mac player, so now why do we have to help them, really? You say "what about those devs who chose .NET?" well really they should have known <strong>what </strong>choosing .NET mean. Yes, Java/Swing is fat and looks alien on every platform (even though this is not anymore, with 1.6), but at least it was and is *really* multiplatform, even though it was still not GPL at the time .NET was born. Yes, Flash has always been closed, but at least in the last year we saw a damn player for Linux from Adobe, and we had and have already our open source implementations, e.g. GNASH, because at least Macromedia/Adobe opened the specs, not it's not the same if .NET where (as you said) many parts are directly related to WinAPIs, so go with the reverse engineering. What I really hope now is that AIR or JavaFX will spread more than (Silver|Moon)light (they will both be open IIRC). Bye   I agree with BTreeHugger.

Miguel and all of the other good guys of Mono deserve respect for how little time took to them to arrive where they are with Silverlight, but now, really, who needed it?

What really annoys me is that they’re doing a big, fat gift to someone who never ever gifted anything (I mean, open source) to the community, and who now can say “hey worldwide devs, you know that .NET is sooo multiplatform that runs on Linux”? They didn’t care about Linux at all, they provided their Win and Mac player, so now why do we have to help them, really?

You say “what about those devs who chose .NET?” well really they should have known what choosing .NET mean.

Yes, Java/Swing is fat and looks alien on every platform (even though this is not anymore, with 1.6), but at least it was and is *really* multiplatform, even though it was still not GPL at the time .NET was born.

Yes, Flash has always been closed, but at least in the last year we saw a damn player for Linux from Adobe, and we had and have already our open source implementations, e.g. GNASH, because at least Macromedia/Adobe opened the specs, not it’s not the same if .NET where (as you said) many parts are directly related to WinAPIs, so go with the reverse engineering.

What I really hope now is that AIR or JavaFX will spread more than (Silver|Moon)light (they will both be open IIRC).

Bye
 

]]> By: Funky Penguin News » Blog Archive » Moonlight, the 100% Compatible Silverlight Implementation for Linux http://neosmart.net/blog/2007/mono-doesnt-get-enough-credit/#comment-26025 Funky Penguin News » Blog Archive » Moonlight, the 100% Compatible Silverlight Implementation for Linux Mon, 25 Jun 2007 06:22:10 +0000 http://neosmart.net/blog/2007/mono-doesnt-get-enough-credit/#comment-26025 [...] Link to Moonlight, the 100% Compatible Silverlight Implementation for Linux [...] [...] Link to Moonlight, the 100% Compatible Silverlight Implementation for Linux [...]

]]> By: BTreeHugger http://neosmart.net/blog/2007/mono-doesnt-get-enough-credit/#comment-25881 BTreeHugger Mon, 25 Jun 2007 00:59:27 +0000 http://neosmart.net/blog/2007/mono-doesnt-get-enough-credit/#comment-25881 I do not understand the hype over Silverlight any more than I understand why people are happy about it. Sure, Flash is ubiquitous and Adobe decided to stab web developers in the back rather than work with SVG. Now we have truly talented workers trying to dole out .NET and Silverlight? I'm sure I'm not alone as (a web developer) when I feel that Silverlight is a colossal waste of effort. If Microsoft had opted to implement standards-compliant things like SVG first, then move on to Silverlight, I would not complain. But they are clearly worried that Adobe have acquired Flash and want a piece of the action. And where are all these happy people when Safari's WebKit now supports things like SVG and Canvas? It's not big news, because crapware like Silverlight is more shiny and distracting. My question is this: gas anyone noticed that Internet Explorer is now the ONLY major browser that doesn't support SVG? At least, without plugins (which makes life harder, not easier)? I congratulate the Mono team on a job well done, but if and Microsoft had spent this time on standards-related work then I'm sure that we'd have superior technology to Flash and Silverlight in all major browsers. Instead we have one more competing technology to worry about crashing our browsers. I do not understand the hype over Silverlight any more than I understand why people are happy about it. Sure, Flash is ubiquitous and Adobe decided to stab web developers in the back rather than work with SVG. Now we have truly talented workers trying to dole out .NET and Silverlight? I’m sure I’m not alone as (a web developer) when I feel that Silverlight is a colossal waste of effort.

If Microsoft had opted to implement standards-compliant things like SVG first, then move on to Silverlight, I would not complain. But they are clearly worried that Adobe have acquired Flash and want a piece of the action. And where are all these happy people when Safari’s WebKit now supports things like SVG and Canvas? It’s not big news, because crapware like Silverlight is more shiny and distracting.

My question is this: gas anyone noticed that Internet Explorer is now the ONLY major browser that doesn’t support SVG? At least, without plugins (which makes life harder, not easier)? I congratulate the Mono team on a job well done, but if and Microsoft had spent this time on standards-related work then I’m sure that we’d have superior technology to Flash and Silverlight in all major browsers. Instead we have one more competing technology to worry about crashing our browsers.

]]> By: Jon Davis http://neosmart.net/blog/2007/mono-doesnt-get-enough-credit/#comment-25721 Jon Davis Sun, 24 Jun 2007 17:55:17 +0000 http://neosmart.net/blog/2007/mono-doesnt-get-enough-credit/#comment-25721 Oh good grief. You guys are all the same, you never change. 90% of the world will follow Microsoft's innovative lead, and you guys will be screaming and slobbering "proprietary!" and "use Java!" and "use Qt!" and "down with corporate Borg!" while these Mono dudes are getting some really great technology working on your incredibly, redicululously archaic, crappy operating system that is only open source because big-wig software companies (like Microsoft) saw that it was a big pile of dog crap at its foundations. No offense, Mono dudes, I'm sure your passion is Linux over .NET. Oh good grief. You guys are all the same, you never change. 90% of the world will follow Microsoft’s innovative lead, and you guys will be screaming and slobbering “proprietary!” and “use Java!” and “use Qt!” and “down with corporate Borg!” while these Mono dudes are getting some really great technology working on your incredibly, redicululously archaic, crappy operating system that is only open source because big-wig software companies (like Microsoft) saw that it was a big pile of dog crap at its foundations.

No offense, Mono dudes, I’m sure your passion is Linux over .NET.

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