Comments on: Gutsy Gibbon and Really Slow Internet

By: Upgrading to 7.10 ubuntu - Computer Forums

Upgrading to 7.10 ubuntu - Computer Forums — Wed, 16 Apr 2008 01:48:13 +0000

[...] is a known issue with Ubuntu. It has been discussed on and off since the release of Gutsy. Gutsy Gibbon and Really Slow Internet — The NeoSmart Files Your best bet is to hit up the Ubuntu Forums and see if they have any workarounds for it. They [...]

By: CTF

CTF — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 14:34:19 +0000

In my case, I have tried OpenDNS and it has no effect on the slow internet connection. The “slowness” is after a DNS query has been resolved and the data stream is in progress.

By: Jay

Jay — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 08:46:40 +0000

I am mainly a Windows user and seeing as my disk is to scratched to use and I cannot afford another one I thought I’d give Ubuntu another shot, I have liked it in the past but this new version is a total bullshit version, why release a half-baked version?!

I see a lot of people are saying to use OpenDNS but I DO NOT want to use OpenDNS and I should NOT have to use it! I cannot go in to the office and start reconfiguring the server just so I can use this half-baked version of Ubuntu! Not only that, but let’s say if I did use OpenDNS, what am I supposed to do when I want to use a public wireless access point? I can’t! Ask the shop to update their DNS? Pah!

Shame on Ubuntu!

By: CTF

CTF — Sun, 30 Mar 2008 02:42:11 +0000

Aaron,
You attribute this to:
“1) properly misconfigured network settings 2) bad hardware routing 3) saturated network or hosts”

In my case these settings are all correct because I have no other internet/networking problems except the slow internet connection.

And as for this statement from you: “I would do further troubleshooting before making a quick scapegoat out of
Ubuntu.”

No one is making a scapegoat out of Ubuntu. We’re trying to get help on a problem which is replicated by many users and in my case after I have tried everything including checking the same hardware configurations on another OS. I am trying to get technical help, not trying to bash Ubuntu.

By: Mahmoud Al-Qudsi

Mahmoud Al-Qudsi — Sat, 29 Mar 2008 13:43:13 +0000

Aaron, these are clean installs of Ubuntu. If there’s a problem with the routing table, it’s Ubuntu’s fault.

By: Aaron

Aaron — Fri, 28 Mar 2008 06:07:14 +0000

This is most certainly:

1) properly misconfigured network settings
2) bad hardware routing
3) saturated network or hosts

The default routing table on a clean install for my network:

Kernel IP routing table
Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use Iface
192.168.1.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth0
169.254.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.0.0 U 1000 0 0 eth0
0.0.0.0 192.168.1.1 0.0.0.0 UG 100 0 0 eth0

The contents of /etc/network/interfaces:

auto lo
iface lo inet loopback

auto eth0
iface eth0 inet dhcp

auto eth1
#iface eth1 inet dhcp

auto eth2
#iface eth2 inet dhcp

auto ath0
#iface ath0 inet dhcp

auto wlan0
#iface wlan0 inet dhcp

The contents of /etc/hosts:

127.0.0.1 localhost

# The following lines are desirable for IPv6 capable hosts
::1 ip6-localhost ip6-loopback
fe00::0 ip6-localnet
ff00::0 ip6-mcastprefix
ff02::1 ip6-allnodes
ff02::2 ip6-allrouters
ff02::3 ip6-allhosts

A 4 packet ping to google with reasonable results:

aaron@hercules:~[2] 315 % ping -c 4 google.com
PING google.com (64.233.187.99) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from jc-in-f99.google.com (64.233.187.99): icmp_seq=1 ttl=240 time=60.5 ms
64 bytes from jc-in-f99.google.com (64.233.187.99): icmp_seq=2 ttl=240 time=60.4 ms
64 bytes from jc-in-f99.google.com (64.233.187.99): icmp_seq=3 ttl=240 time=60.7 ms
64 bytes from jc-in-f99.google.com (64.233.187.99): icmp_seq=4 ttl=240 time=62.6 ms

— google.com ping statistics —
4 packets transmitted, 4 received, 0% packet loss, time 2999ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 60.470/61.087/62.625/0.941 ms

Finally, check out this wget speed from mirrors.kernel.org (grabbing a 4.5MB file):

aaron@hercules:~ 316 % wget mirrors.kernel.org/ubuntu/ls-lR.gz
–00:01:58– http://mirrors.kernel.org/ubuntu/ls-lR.gz
=> `ls-lR.gz’
Resolving mirrors.kernel.org… 204.152.191.39, 204.152.191.7
Connecting to mirrors.kernel.org|204.152.191.39|:80… connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response… 200 OK
Length: 4,768,314 (4.5M) [application/x-gzip]

100%[================================================>] 4,768,314 980.92K/s ETA 00:00

00:02:17 (898.11 KB/s) - `ls-lR.gz’ saved [4768314/4768314]

Downloaded in 2 sec at 898KB/s. Everything seems pretty normal, all lights green, and no issues whatsoever. All on a default install with no updates applied. IPv6 is clearly not getting in the way here.

I would do further troubleshooting before making a quick scapegoat out of Ubuntu.

By: Brye

Brye — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 13:46:54 +0000

I just re installed my Ubuntu 7.10 on my Acer Aspire 4310, and I must say I am one of the luck ones who fortunately did not experience slow internet connections, I use bot Opera and Mozilla and they both work fine, same goes with all the built in accessories on my laptop, webcam works fine specially with the Cheese software I downloaded, card readers, USB, speakers and DVD player work just fine, I even added many softwares being just so excited about all the free softwares I can get compared to the expensive softwares and necessary hardware upgrades with Windows that even make your PC crawl, mine works still fine and even much faster than with Windows

cheers!

By: CTF

CTF — Fri, 01 Feb 2008 23:11:55 +0000

Another data point.

I have installed Gutsy on a Gateway Laptop and a Shuttle desktop. Both systems are dual boots with either XP or Vista. Gutsy’s internet performance during downloads is a fraction of Windoz on a cable broadband connection. Sad that such a great OS should have such a critical bottleneck. Please ensure that this gets fixed in the next release. I, like many others want to be totally rid of MS.

By: GaryH

GaryH — Sat, 05 Jan 2008 18:26:43 +0000

I’ve had no problems with my Gutsy Gibbon install. It has worked flawlessly. I just get so happy every morning when I’m not helping line Microsoft’s pocketbooks with money.

By: JohnBoy

JohnBoy — Sat, 05 Jan 2008 17:31:57 +0000

KiloByte,

You are 100% correct. I too am fighting this exact same issue. I am the lead server engineer for a LARGE internet business. My problems are not DNS, Router, firewall, or related to anything else other than my 1 Ubuntu box that I recenty upgraded. Every other system (XP, SUSE, Redhat, etc.) work just fine. I too am getting hassled by pwn’s that think it “must” be something with my setup. Yet, oddly enuf ALL my other machines are up and humming away with out issue.

Yet another pre-mature release from the open source community. Curse you developers. Did they test this at all? Seems pretty damn wide-spread…I have a real hard time believing they gave anything a decent load-test before publishing it to the world.

Time for me to go format & rebuild my ubuntu box & disable synaptic package manager after that so they don’t break it again.

Peace 2 U

By: chris

chris — Mon, 17 Dec 2007 12:56:43 +0000

have the same problem with internet speed, synaptics works fine, firefox in painfully slow. I run gutsy on my laptop and it connects to wireles network during boot (my router in the living room). XP does not connect @ all, wired works fine. so it isnt router. still dont know why is firefox so slow?

By: Computer Guru

Computer Guru — Tue, 04 Dec 2007 14:09:26 +0000

I don’t think it has anything to do with automatic updates, because it happened to me personally right off the bat; as a matter of fact, the internet wasn’t even working well enough for it to even download any updates in the first place until I did the IPv6 hack.

About the number of Ubuntu updates: that’s normal Every time a single program or module has a bit changed somewhere, you’ll be notified to update. It’s great in many ways (like not having to wait until Patch Tuesday!) but it can be a pain if you’ve got really slow internet or something.

Especially nice is the fact that Ubuntu doesn’t make you reboot after each minor upgrade - only Kernel-side module changes need a reboot.

By: Makaveli213

Makaveli213 — Tue, 04 Dec 2007 14:04:17 +0000

Well i have done all the auto updates. Just went thru another batch of 20+ updates which seems wierd but i installed them all. Still no problems. Guess i am one of hte lucky ones. Not that i will argue with that.

~Mak

By: Mal

Mal — Tue, 04 Dec 2007 13:22:05 +0000

Agree whole-heartedly, I love Feisty and really enjoy using it for 99% of what I do on a PC. It was only the “automatic” upgrade to Gutsy that left a lamentable impression. Going back to Feisty means all is well with the world again

As CG said above, perhaps Hardy Heron will put paid to the woes of Gutsy that I experienced. Even so, I’ll be reading the feedback from users before upgrading this time….

Cheers.

By: Computer Guru

Computer Guru — Tue, 04 Dec 2007 04:48:37 +0000

Ubuntu is still a great OS, I’m certainly not implying that one shouldn’t use it just because a certain percentage of the userbase is having problems with one or two particular issues - it’s still better than some of the competition by leaps and bounds.

It’s just lamentable that these issues were put to rest several releases ago, and now they’ve been resurrected without a good explanation.

However, Gutsy Gibbon is not a Long Time Support release; so hopefully the next version, Hardy Heron, which is an LTS release, will be more trouble-free