Comments on: Vista SP1 (Beta) and ATi Drivers: Not a Great Mix http://neosmart.net/blog/2007/vista-sp1-beta-and-ati-drivers-not-a-great-mix/ Connecting Ideas Sun, 08 Nov 2009 03:11:16 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Ati driver - BinaryDriverHowto/ATI - Community Ubuntu Documentation http://neosmart.net/blog/2007/vista-sp1-beta-and-ati-drivers-not-a-great-mix/#comment-49857 Ati driver - BinaryDriverHowto/ATI - Community Ubuntu Documentation Sat, 15 Sep 2007 10:55:03 +0000 http://neosmart.net/blog/2007/vista-sp1-beta-and-ati-drivers-not-a-great-mix/#comment-49857 [...] would be the same. Free ATI drivers for Christians :) . Reply to this comment. -4 diggs Bury Digg Vista SP1 (Beta) and ATi Drivers: Not a Great Mix at The NeoSmart nVidia’s lead in driver reliability has grown even further with SP1: the same ATi drivers that were [...]

]]> By: Computer Guru http://neosmart.net/blog/2007/vista-sp1-beta-and-ati-drivers-not-a-great-mix/#comment-43422 Computer Guru Wed, 29 Aug 2007 20:31:26 +0000 http://neosmart.net/blog/2007/vista-sp1-beta-and-ati-drivers-not-a-great-mix/#comment-43422 TC, you won't be getting an argument from me. The ATi drivers for Vista final are pretty good. But obviously they're built using some hacks or taking common quirks into consideration, because they just don't work <em>as well</em> on <b>SP1</b> as they do on RTM - whereas nVidia's do. In our <a href="http://neosmart.net/forums">forums</a>, we've seen plenty of people with an infinite number of problems because they're still using <em>AGP</em> ATi cards with the latest ATi drivers - solved by switching to nVidia (still AGP). I'm sure that neither is perfect - almost all the problems with Windows Vista stem from bad drivers or a conflict between the drivers and certain hardware configurations. Windows Vista was designed by developers on certain machines, and no amount of beta testing and deployment trials can change the fact that at this point, it just doesn't work universally on all hardware platforms - even with almost identical configurations. The world of drivers is a deep and dark place to delve into, and we understand that. Hopefully no one got the impression that we recommend that everyone switch to nVidia over ATi or vice versa just because of an issue or two - all it takes is a single Windows Hotfix/Patch, a single driver update, or a single bug to bring an entire company down to its heels - all you can do is pray, wait, and hope that it doesn't happen to you. TC, you won’t be getting an argument from me. The ATi drivers for Vista final are pretty good. But obviously they’re built using some hacks or taking common quirks into consideration, because they just don’t work as well on SP1 as they do on RTM – whereas nVidia’s do.

In our forums, we’ve seen plenty of people with an infinite number of problems because they’re still using AGP ATi cards with the latest ATi drivers – solved by switching to nVidia (still AGP).

I’m sure that neither is perfect – almost all the problems with Windows Vista stem from bad drivers or a conflict between the drivers and certain hardware configurations. Windows Vista was designed by developers on certain machines, and no amount of beta testing and deployment trials can change the fact that at this point, it just doesn’t work universally on all hardware platforms – even with almost identical configurations.

The world of drivers is a deep and dark place to delve into, and we understand that. Hopefully no one got the impression that we recommend that everyone switch to nVidia over ATi or vice versa just because of an issue or two – all it takes is a single Windows Hotfix/Patch, a single driver update, or a single bug to bring an entire company down to its heels – all you can do is pray, wait, and hope that it doesn’t happen to you.

]]> By: TC http://neosmart.net/blog/2007/vista-sp1-beta-and-ati-drivers-not-a-great-mix/#comment-43411 TC Wed, 29 Aug 2007 19:52:30 +0000 http://neosmart.net/blog/2007/vista-sp1-beta-and-ati-drivers-not-a-great-mix/#comment-43411 You have got to be kidding.  I finally gave up in disgust over nVidia.  After several tries never got the drivers right for my 7900GTX or the 8800 series for that matter.  Bought an ATI and it is very stable with Vista Ultimate.  I have had no problems.  Read the blogs at the nVidia site if you think their drivers actually work. You have got to be kidding.  I finally gave up in disgust over nVidia.  After several tries never got the drivers right for my 7900GTX or the 8800 series for that matter.  Bought an ATI and it is very stable with Vista Ultimate.  I have had no problems.  Read the blogs at the nVidia site if you think their drivers actually work.

]]> By: DC http://neosmart.net/blog/2007/vista-sp1-beta-and-ati-drivers-not-a-great-mix/#comment-41189 DC Fri, 24 Aug 2007 01:37:46 +0000 http://neosmart.net/blog/2007/vista-sp1-beta-and-ati-drivers-not-a-great-mix/#comment-41189 Just curious, which specific pre-release version of SP1 was used by neosmart? Which ATI driver version? Which ATI hardware? Which bugcheck codes? (0x116 etc?) When does the bugcheck happen? In specific games or all the time? Were the dump files submitted to Microsoft via the WER console so they can be debugged? More specific info should help alleviate fear/uncertainty/doubt and also boost readership at the same time. Just curious, which specific pre-release version of SP1 was used by neosmart? Which ATI driver version? Which ATI hardware? Which bugcheck codes? (0×116 etc?) When does the bugcheck happen? In specific games or all the time? Were the dump files submitted to Microsoft via the WER console so they can be debugged? More specific info should help alleviate fear/uncertainty/doubt and also boost readership at the same time.

]]> By: plywood99 http://neosmart.net/blog/2007/vista-sp1-beta-and-ati-drivers-not-a-great-mix/#comment-40136 plywood99 Sun, 19 Aug 2007 13:19:48 +0000 http://neosmart.net/blog/2007/vista-sp1-beta-and-ati-drivers-not-a-great-mix/#comment-40136 Yes I read the article. Did you discern what was implied in the article? Yes I read the article. Did you discern what was implied in the article?

]]> By: Michelle Dessler http://neosmart.net/blog/2007/vista-sp1-beta-and-ati-drivers-not-a-great-mix/#comment-40126 Michelle Dessler Sun, 19 Aug 2007 12:40:57 +0000 http://neosmart.net/blog/2007/vista-sp1-beta-and-ati-drivers-not-a-great-mix/#comment-40126 Did you bother to read the article, even? <blockquote>Obviously no one is to blame here - not yet, anyway. Windows Vista SP1 isn’t even in beta yet (though it certainly isn’t alpha!), and ATi’s drivers weren’t intended for use with anything other than Vista RTM and its immediate updates.</blockquote> Did you bother to read the article, even?

Obviously no one is to blame here – not yet, anyway. Windows Vista SP1 isn’t even in beta yet (though it certainly isn’t alpha!), and ATi’s drivers weren’t intended for use with anything other than Vista RTM and its immediate updates.

]]> By: plywood99 http://neosmart.net/blog/2007/vista-sp1-beta-and-ati-drivers-not-a-great-mix/#comment-39894 plywood99 Sat, 18 Aug 2007 14:39:17 +0000 http://neosmart.net/blog/2007/vista-sp1-beta-and-ati-drivers-not-a-great-mix/#comment-39894 Umm, just to clear things up a little. If you check most of the video card review sites you will see that Ati's drivers have been far better than Nvidia's on Vista. Only recently in the last month or two have Nvidia caught up. Also how is it Ati's fault if a new service pack, (which is in beta btw), is causing problems with their drivers. Do you suppose that just maybe the issue is with the service pack??? Umm, just to clear things up a little. If you check most of the video card review sites you will see that Ati’s drivers have been far better than Nvidia’s on Vista. Only recently in the last month or two have Nvidia caught up.

Also how is it Ati’s fault if a new service pack, (which is in beta btw), is causing problems with their drivers. Do you suppose that just maybe the issue is with the service pack???

]]> By: Computer Guru http://neosmart.net/blog/2007/vista-sp1-beta-and-ati-drivers-not-a-great-mix/#comment-39612 Computer Guru Fri, 17 Aug 2007 11:12:18 +0000 http://neosmart.net/blog/2007/vista-sp1-beta-and-ati-drivers-not-a-great-mix/#comment-39612 Yeah, I see what you're saying. It seems most of the online world seems to expect the AMD label reign king: http://www.neowin.net/index.php?act=view&id=34450 Yeah, I see what you’re saying.

It seems most of the online world seems to expect the AMD label reign king:
http://www.neowin.net/index.php?act=view&id=34450

]]> By: Kerry http://neosmart.net/blog/2007/vista-sp1-beta-and-ati-drivers-not-a-great-mix/#comment-39577 Kerry Fri, 17 Aug 2007 07:43:24 +0000 http://neosmart.net/blog/2007/vista-sp1-beta-and-ati-drivers-not-a-great-mix/#comment-39577 In a manner of speaking. I have a feeling not much has changed at ATi just yet. Just as nVidia took their time when they bought out 3dfx, I have a feeling AMD is taking their time with regard to making changes in ATi. Since ATi isn't just a little startup, AMD has a lot of stuff to sift through in order to get ATi fully assimilated into the company. Slightly unrelated, part of me is wondering if AMD plans to continue using the ATi brand for graphics adapters, chipsets, and the like, or if they're going to drop it and slap 'AMD' on everything. In a manner of speaking. I have a feeling not much has changed at ATi just yet. Just as nVidia took their time when they bought out 3dfx, I have a feeling AMD is taking their time with regard to making changes in ATi. Since ATi isn’t just a little startup, AMD has a lot of stuff to sift through in order to get ATi fully assimilated into the company.

Slightly unrelated, part of me is wondering if AMD plans to continue using the ATi brand for graphics adapters, chipsets, and the like, or if they’re going to drop it and slap ‘AMD’ on everything.

]]> By: Computer Guru http://neosmart.net/blog/2007/vista-sp1-beta-and-ati-drivers-not-a-great-mix/#comment-39159 Computer Guru Thu, 16 Aug 2007 17:38:39 +0000 http://neosmart.net/blog/2007/vista-sp1-beta-and-ati-drivers-not-a-great-mix/#comment-39159 AMD has been at the helm for quite a while though, haven't they? AMD has been at the helm for quite a while though, haven’t they?

]]> By: Kerry http://neosmart.net/blog/2007/vista-sp1-beta-and-ati-drivers-not-a-great-mix/#comment-39149 Kerry Thu, 16 Aug 2007 16:54:37 +0000 http://neosmart.net/blog/2007/vista-sp1-beta-and-ati-drivers-not-a-great-mix/#comment-39149 Standard fare for ATi, really. The company seems to have a long-standing tradition of producing nice hardware and horrid drivers. Hopefully things will improve now that AMD is at the controls. We'll see. :) Standard fare for ATi, really. The company seems to have a long-standing tradition of producing nice hardware and horrid drivers. Hopefully things will improve now that AMD is at the controls. We’ll see. :)

]]> By: ITsVISTA Web Links: August 15th, 2007 | ITsVISTA http://neosmart.net/blog/2007/vista-sp1-beta-and-ati-drivers-not-a-great-mix/#comment-39029 ITsVISTA Web Links: August 15th, 2007 | ITsVISTA Thu, 16 Aug 2007 00:30:03 +0000 http://neosmart.net/blog/2007/vista-sp1-beta-and-ati-drivers-not-a-great-mix/#comment-39029 [...] Vista SP1 (Beta) and ATi Drivers: Not a Great Mix If you do gaming on Vista, and use an ATI video card, you probably won't want to try the recently leaked SP1 pre-beta. (tags: Video Drivers ATI ) [...] [...] Vista SP1 (Beta) and ATi Drivers: Not a Great Mix If you do gaming on Vista, and use an ATI video card, you probably won't want to try the recently leaked SP1 pre-beta. (tags: Video Drivers ATI ) [...]

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