[Download] UAC-Free iReboot BETA

[Computer Guru]

The problem is that if you choose operating system XP in Vista, and boot into XP, XP's iReboot will have the last OS that you selected from within iReboot checked.. that is to say, last-selection is not synchronized across OSes.

[Terry60]

Surely if you've got the option ticked, when the XP system is booted it will revert at startup to a default XP boot even though the last time you used it was to call Vista ?
I thought that was the point of the Bernie option ?

[Computer Guru]

I'm no longer clear on what you're proposing..... sorry!

[Makaveli213]

I have tested the newest build on MCE and Server 2008. Work flawlessly.

[Terry60]

CG, we're obviously tuned to slightly different wavelengths here.
What I interpreted bernie's request to be was
"semi-permanently change the boot menu to default to the currently booted system, until another iteration of iR requests a different system, at which point the boot menu is changed to default to that system. (not just temporarily for the one boot, but semi-permanently again)"
i.e. iR becomes a dynamic "default boot" editor as well as a booter.
Am I right in thinking that build 9 changes the boot menu to whatever you last selected in iR, which is not necessarily the booted system ?
For example, if Bernie uses XP's iR to boot Vista, then Vista's iR to boot XP, then in XP does WUD which reboots, which system will he get ?
The way I interpret your description of build 9, he'll get Vista because that's what was last flagged in XP's iR, when what he wants is to get XP.
This is all conjecture and speculation on my part, because I'm not using iR for the moment so I can't test it to see for myself, and is also based on what I think Bernie meant in his original post.
I await correction from either of you if my assumptions are incorrect.
For the record, I like what I think Bernie was suggesting too. That was the jist of my previous post that you couldn't fathom.

[Ex_Brit]

On my triple boot it only keeps the "Reboot on selection" in memory - at least I think that's the case.

[Computer Guru]

Originally Posted by Terry60

CG, we're obviously tuned to slightly different wavelengths here.
What I interpreted bernie's request to be was
"semi-permanently change the boot menu to default to the currently booted system, until another iteration of iR requests a different system, at which point the boot menu is changed to default to that system. (not just temporarily for the one boot, but semi-permanently again)"
i.e. iR becomes a dynamic "default boot" editor as well as a booter.
Am I right in thinking that build 9 changes the boot menu to whatever you last selected in iR, which is not necessarily the booted system ?
For example, if Bernie uses XP's iR to boot Vista, then Vista's iR to boot XP, then in XP does WUD which reboots, which system will he get ?
The way I interpret your description of build 9, he'll get Vista because that's what was last flagged in XP's iR, when what he wants is to get XP.
This is all conjecture and speculation on my part, because I'm not using iR for the moment so I can't test it to see for myself, and is also based on what I think Bernie meant in his original post.
I await correction from either of you if my assumptions are incorrect.
For the record, I like what I think Bernie was suggesting too. That was the jist of my previous post that you couldn't fathom.

I guess we're not on different wavelengths after all :-)
As of build 9, iReboot will tell the bootloader to boot into the OS you're currently in. So in your example above, it'll boot to XP actually. (and does with build 9).

Is this what you want? Or are you suggesting different behavior?

Originally Posted by Ex_Brit

On my triple boot it only keeps the "Reboot on selection" in memory - at least I think that's the case.

That's correct.

[Terry60]

That is what I want, but I'm still confused, by your post #76 now !

[Computer Guru]

I'm also confused by it - nvm that anymore...

So does Build 9 do exactly what you want? Or should I revert the default behavior per my first response on the matter?

[Terry60]

Booting the currently running system by default would be my choice, but I agreed with your doubt about changing the MS default behaviour, so I think that it should be a conscious choice of the user, a positively selected option to change the MS natural behaviour, rather than what iR does by default.

My only other question was whether, if you're adding an install or runtime option for this purpose, whether you could, in the same place, put an option to suppress the currently booted system in the iR list.

You obviously wouldn't exercise it, because you use iR as a complete substitute for the start button options, but I have keyboard buttons for those, so I'd only ever use iR to go straight to the non-booted system.

This is all academic at present of course, but I'm thinking ahead to when you add HnS support to version 2.0

[Computer Guru]

OK, build 10 should do what you need.

* [#IRBT-6] Option for reboots done seperate from iReboot to default to current OS - NeoSmart Technologies BugCentral
* [#IRBT-9] Advanced option to hide current OS from iReboot list to minimize clutter - NeoSmart Technologies BugCentral

[Ex_Brit]

Guys, you lost me about 8 million versions ago. Which one do I need that has the Windows default behaviour?
By that I mean doesn't override whatever I have setup as the default boot system in EasyBCD.

[Computer Guru]

The latest

The second-to-last one changed that, but installing the very latest should revert all the default behavior

[Terry60]

You are a gentleman and a scholar CG, no sooner mentioned than implemented !
(Can't wait to be able to use it. It's much more galling to have to wait around for the boot menu, once you've got used to the joys of iR, and are deprived of them)

[Computer Guru]

You're welcome

I don't know if you've seen it yet, but this is what iReboot.exe.config looks like:

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8" ?>
<configuration>
    <userSettings>
        <iReboot.Properties.Settings>
            <setting name="AutoReboot" serializeAs="String">
                <value>False</value>
            </setting>
            <setting name="SetDefaultOnStartup" serializeAs="String">
                <value>False</value>
            </setting>
            <setting name="ShowCurrentOS" serializeAs="String">
                <value>True</value>
            </setting>
        </iReboot.Properties.Settings>
    </userSettings>
</configuration>

The first value is set (and displayed) from within iReboot as the value of "Reboot on Selection" so that it's remembered between iReboot sessions. The other two are manually set, and indicate the behavior of setting the current OS as default on iReboot startup and whether or not the current OS should appear in the list, respectively.

Peter, I'm not going to say "hopefully this is the last build" again, since it seems every time I do, another great feature is proposed. But we'll see