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Thread: instructions are wrong for FC 13 - no choice where to put grub!

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    Exclamation instructions are wrong for FC 13 - no choice where to put grub!

    I installed Fedora 13 from a DVD to my Windows 7 computer. Unlike what the instructions below state, there was never an opportunity to choose where to put GRUB. There was no page with an option to "Configure advanced boot loader options.

    Thanks to this incorrect instruction, the computer reboots to grub, and I must quickly stop the process by hitting Enter, then choose to boot Windows.



    Step Four
    Fedora is one of the operating systems out there that understands the needs of dual-booters and makes it easy to get things working. To this end, once you continue on to the next page in the Fedora setup process, you'll be asked where you'd like to install GRUB, Fedora's bootloader. On this page, just check the "Configure advanced boot loader options" box and press "Next" to continue. If you have entries other than "Fedora" in that list, you may want to remove them for a smoother dual-boot procedure later on.

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    If its anything like Ubuntu's setup it should have an advanced button on the very last page where you confirm your settings before the installation. Heres how to put the Windows bootloader back in charge: http://neosmart.net/wiki/display/EBC...r+from+the+DVD

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    No such options/screens - those instructions are obviously for an earlier version.

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    Yes they are for an earlier version. Look at the last time that article was edited. Dec of 2007. With all of the work we have put into creating and testing EasyBCD 2.0 we have not had time to update all of the documentation for all of the recent releases of Linux and GRUB and so on. We are currently working as fast as 4 people can to update all of the documentation and continue to debug and test new version of EasyBCD 2.0 so that we can offer you the best support and options we can.

    So yes our documentation is out dated. But at the same time Fedora did offer this. So that is something that was removed from Fedora by its developers, not by us. To resolve the issue, use the steps listed here to recover the BCD so that you dont have to go through GRUB first.

    Sorry that the documentation fell behind, but 4 people can't quite keep up with the amount of stuff that needs to be done. We are only human after all.
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    Again, those instructions simply don't apply to the software as it is - I can't go to the "Bootloader Management" window when there is none.

    After repairing the boot sector - what about grub then? How will the computer be able to boot to FC afterwards?
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    Add a grub-legacy entry for Fedora using EasyBCD.

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    I still don't know how to fix the original problem, so the Windows boot loader / EasyBCD comes up in the first place.

    I also don't understand how to add a "grub-legacy" entry.
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    EasyBCD > Add New Entry > Linux/BSD tab > Point it to the right partition > Add Entry

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mak 2.0 View Post
    To resolve the issue, use the steps listed here to recover the BCD so that you dont have to go through GRUB first.
    You are making this far more complicated than it is. I already gave the link. It instructs you on how to use EasyBCD from within Windows or how to use the Windows DVD to fix the boot problem. You already said you could get into Windows, correct?

    So from there run EasyBCD 2.0.1 and use the Backup/Repair options. There Re-create/repair the boot files. This will restore the BCD. After that you go back to Add New Entry and add an entry for Fedora.

    I dont know why you trying to use the documentation even after i specifically stated it is out dated and needs to be updated. It is for Fedora from 2007 and for EasyBCD version 1.7.2 which is now outdated. Your using the wrong documentation for the wrong version of the program.

    I did give instructions on how to fix it, you must have missed them in my last post.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kairozamorro View Post
    EasyBCD > Add New Entry > Linux/BSD tab > Point it to the right partition > Add Entry
    What determines what is the right partition?

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    Should say extxfs ext2fs etc etc. Wherever it is that you installed Fedora. If you're unsure, post a screenshot of the dropdown/disk management.

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    I've tried 4 and 5, but neither works. Trying to boot to the new entry just brings up a blank screen with a blinking cursor










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    Partition 5 appears to be it (Partition 4 is way too small unless it was mounted as /boot at setup). It appears you'll need to install grub to Fedora's partition. You can do this with Fedora's livecd from a terminal.

    Heres an example using a Ubuntu cd. If Fedoras still not using grub2 it should be just about the same. At setup though you're going to want to include ",y" so its "setup (hdx,y)" and not "setup (hdx)" so its installing to the partition, not the disk. Re-add the entry in EasyBCD for good measure and than reboot to test.

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    Instructions from ubuntu forum did not work, booting from Fedora Live CD. First, could not sudo, so used su to run grub, but the "find /boot/grub/stage1" command failed with "Error 15: File not found"

    For whatever reason, it seems like Fedora Core is now designed not to play nicely on a Windows computer. I now have 2 useless partitions on the HD, and don't see any reason not to get rid of them.. I'm thinkng of trying ubuntu, since it comes with a Windows installer, so am hoping it won't take over the computer like FC wants to.

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    WUBIs a great way to get used to Ubuntu, without the need for complicated setups. Put in the Ubuntu disc when you're in Windows and you'll have it up in no time.

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