From my previous post I wound up crashing the entire system, not sure if Sun VM may have done it or playing with the boot rec. but now I'm parting and formatting c: in win me and will continue by the same with the Vista install, BEFORE installing ME so ME will know about the NTFS part. Already tried ME first the Vista, and couldn't get anywhere, so now I'll go Vista 1st then ME, BUT, the DOS WILL STILL BE ON C:. Will Vista overwrite the MBR? AND if so, can I recover it? If I can get a boot listing that goes to DOS, I can install any DOS OS there. Any advice or pointers would HELP!!!