Windows Vista RC1 (screenshots!) was released this week with great fanfare. Coming after the highly-successful pre-RC1 build 5536, it had quite a lot of high expectations, and it certainly exceeded quite a few of them. In a word, Windows Vista RC1 is too good to be true. If it wasn't for the pre-RC1 build, we wouldn't be able to believe it. The last non-RC1 branches build we receive, build 5472, was a mess. It lacked a sense of completion, it crashed, it was buggy, and it was huge. RC1 couldn't be further from that harsh reality.
Windows Vista Build 5600 is release candidate, and comes close to the meaning of that word. Generally speaking, an RC build is "ready for release" unless major bugs come up. With Vista or any other OS, there are bound to be quite a few major bugs left by RC1, and it's the way the company handles them that matters more than anything else. And with Vista, we're really impressed. We can finally present a honest look at what Vista will be. This isn't just RC1 being reviewed, this is Vista.
We may have complained quite a lot before and after RC1 was released, but don't let that mislead you, RC1 is good. Really good for a product that just a month ago was a complete and utter disaster as far as usability and stability were concerned. This review focuses on all aspects of RC1, which after all is the first real look at what we're going to end up getting. What makes this review a bit different from our previous reviews is a more on-the-spot focus about the good and the bad. It's a mega-review, it features subjective and objective tests, and every step of the way we'll be giving our feedback about what works and what doesn't. You can go ahead and press the next page link and read it from start to finish or you can use the mini-ToC below; each section is more or less independent of the rest.
- Introduction
- Subjective Experiences
- Windows Explorer / User Interface
- Networking
- Productivity
- Vista Security
- Windows Internet Explorer 7
- Entertainment
- Windows Media Center
- Portability & Mobility
- Interoperability / Program Compatibility
- Overall Performance
Subjective Experiences on Windows Vista
It may be a bit hard to explain or put down in words, but Windows Vista has finally become "livable." Throughout the beta program, Vista was like alien territory; even with the most experienced beta testers, there was something difficult about sticking to Vista, no matter how dedicated you were, going back to XP always brought some feeling of relief for no tangible reason. Build 5472 was a lot better, but its only with RC1 that most people we've talked to are finally just as comfortable in Vista as they are in XP, if not more so.
It's more than just vibes or karma, it's something that can only be described as the "completeness" of the entire operating system as a whole. It's the way that everything fits together, the way Windows Media Player doesn't disappear when you close Windows Explorer, the way Internet Explorer doesn't crash when a page takes too long to load, and the way you can be just as productive on Vista as you are on Windows XP or Linux. Vista RC1 brings a host of minor changes that finally turn it from a unfinished product to something actually usable, that doesn't exude of incompletion and breakage at every moment.
That said, Windows Vista certainly is a lot faster. Technically speaking, it had better be faster than Windows XP, after all, that's why it's called an upgrade and not a 'sidestep' or alternate Windows path.' All of the reviews comparing Windows Vista to Windows XP and concluding Well gee, it's a really big improvement over a 6-year-old OS that never was good in the first place are a bit pitiful. Vista is a new OS for a new era. Everything shipping out now is labeled "next-gen," and indeed, Windows Vista is a next-gen OS for next-gen computers throughout the new generation.
At the NeoSmart Labs, we have PCs pre-loaded with Windows XP, Windows Vista, and Linux (Fedora Core 5 or 6T2). In the past, most coding projects were preformed on Windows XP and publications were done on Fedora, with Vista only being for testing purposes. But now our team members are more productive on Vista than even Linux - quite an accomplishment. What does "productivity" refer to though?
With Vista RC1, programs install and run faster. On Linux one must install all dependencies first, and with programs like Yum(ex) it isn't hard, but it certainly is time-consuming. It was faster than setting programs up on XP, but with Vista the entire framework has been given an over-haul. SharpDevelop installs in under 1 minute and AutoCad 2007 in less than 2. That's fast. With Vista, Windows finally ships with all you need to get going, and indeed besides Office 2007 we haven't installed anything for the past two days, and we're still getting along great. Other programs that normally take quite some time to run (like Word 2007, Zoundry Blog Writer, and Outlook 2007) start up instantly, and even Photoshop CS2 loads in under 30 seconds, something that could never be done on these same PCs under XP and run significantly faster than their Linux counterparts like Gimp or Evolution.
But it's not perfect. Things like Windows Media Center have barely been touched since Beta 1. They're just as slow and buggy as they were builds ago, except with a couple of new (and unrefined!) features added to the mix. Mad props should go to the Internet Explorer 7 team, but it's CSS and DIV support is far from perfect. A lot of these things are discussed later on in greater detail, but suffice to say that Windows Vista is still lacking when it comes to standards and supporting them, but it has certainly improved. Windows Vista may boot in under 20 seconds, but it still takes 3 minutes to shutdown.
While Microsoft has made UAC amazingly easy to use and far less obtrusive, and it may no longer take 7 steps to delete a simple shortcut, but certain power-user tools are made much harder to reach, such as viewing available wireless connections or configuring network adapters. It has taken the power out of "administrator" and not because of UAC, but because of a simple lack of proper layout techniques.
Windows Vista Explorer / User Interface Review
The Good
The big thing in Vista is the look. While that's public enough knowledge, there are some subtle changes that have happened since the start of the RC1-branches builds that have greatly enhanced the quality and perfection of Windows Vista's visual effects. Prior to RC1 branches, Vista's (in)famous 'Aurora' theme was overdone and exuded of nostalgia and clutter. Comparing the old Aurora and MCE 'stage' of previous builds to the new Aurora effect. The difference is very subtle, but the effect is colossal.
Other effects such as the copy/move/delete dialogs have undergone major enhancements, while 'heavy' animations such as Flip3D and the alt-tab sequence have undergone heavy improvements since the original, with anti-aliasing added in subsequent builds and ending with the perfected Flip3D of RC1 with it's 8x anti-aliasing effect and anisotropic filtering.
Windows Vista has nice new effects all over the place, when you're maximizing windows, booting up, shutting down, or looking for some nifty widgets to tell you the time, take notes on, or check out the weather. Glass has finally been improved, as can be seen by comparing the old and the new versions of Windows Media Player 11.
A user interface is something far bigger than just pretty icons and flashy effects, it's the whole way that the operating system interacts with the user and vice versa. Windows Vista puts a whole new spin on the way an operating system works. It may not be Windows 95 all over again, but Windows Vista can be seen as the "evolution finale" of the graphic desktop. Windows XP was "GUI-Complete" in that one didn't have to touch the CLI to make things work, unlike Windows 2000 or any and all flavors of Linux, but there were always things like the registry to deal with.
Vista has put a lot more control in the hands of the user, almost any feature can be tweaked and modified to one's liking, whether it's the desktop, the audio controller, hard drives, or anything in between; the entire interface to modifying certain parts of the OS has been overhauled and is much easier to use. But again, it's not perfect. Being able to change tint & opacity of window borders isn't everything.
The Bad
Vista RC1 may finally be feature-complete and comfortable to use with everything tied in, but its UI is almost the total opposite. Some aspects of Windows Vista feature a "bars" UI such as Windows Mail with it's blue bars across the front, and the "balls" that include Windows Media Player and Windows Photo Gallery that are made up of a see-through control bars at the bottom and large, circular control buttons in a bar. Then there's Aero Express with it's largely boxy & opaque sky-blue appearance, and then you have MCE with it's dark blue theme with the really nice rollover effects. Each is, in its own right, a decent enough display, but they don't really fit together the way one would expect for the default programs that ship with a single OS.
This post on Teching it Easy best explained the mess behind the GUI disunity present in Windows Vista, ever since the "improved" Aero Express theme was launched. But if that was all that was wrong with Vista's GUI, it's not a problem. We'll get used to it the same we got use to the ghastly and garish bright blue of Windows XP (not Royale Blue of MCE!). But it's not.
The bigger problem is in how Vista makes everything just a hair's-width too far. Checking available wireless networks requires right clicking the icon in the taskbar, opening the Network and Sharing Center, and choosing to connect to a new network. 4 steps. In XP it was just a double-click away. In Linux it's right there on the desktop (well, it depends on the flavor, but you get the gist). It's the same with uninstalling programs, changing the system time, or modifying virtually anything in Windows Vista. It's easy, it's all in the same place, it's all very powerful, and it's all just a bit too far for comfort.
In earlier builds UAC/LUA was a nightmare to use, but in RC1-branches it almost never comes in the way, and when it does, it's worth it. But that doesn't mean that RC1 is suddenly power-user friendly. To the contrary, Vista provides a hell of a lot more features for tweaking, but at the same time, it makes performing any advanced changes to the OS beyond what's already available quite a painful process. The Control Panel has been revamped, it has a lot more power, but nevertheless, for power users there will be a bit of exasperation involved.
Windows Vista Networking Reviewed
One of Windows Vista's biggest improvements and source of problems to date is the all-new networking TCP/IP stack and front-end. Besides the (largely BS) security bulletin published by Symantec, there have been a host of other "previously neutralized" TCP/IP bugs that still existed in Windows Vista. But since then Vista has come clean. We haven't been able to replicate any of the vulnerabilities detailed in Symantec's security bulletins.
Vista's new Network and Sharing Center is a very important step in bringing security down to the average man's playing field. Our security professionals at NeoSmart Technologies have analyzed the host of options available in the Network and Sharing Center, and they do sufficiently address the shortcomings and major sources of insecurity in previous versions of Windows.
Improved TCP/IP Stack
Windows Vista's major bragging point compared to any other modern (and big) operating a system is a TCP/IP stack written from scratch with complete IPv6 and advanced routing support. Most other operating systems have an ancient networking stack that is constantly being updated with new components. Besides the obvious negative performance and security impacts of such a model, it also means that the operating system will never completely interface with the newer features of the networking stack as well as it could if it were written from scratch.
But though the Vista networking stack may be new, it sure as hell isn't from scratch. The TCP/IP stack has been rewritten from the start, but old code has been recycled, a practice that just means that you'll be doing a lot of hard work but not reaping the benefits as much as you could. Vista's networking stack wasn't written with clean code, and as a result old holes and vulnerabilities existed; though they were patched in later updates of Windows XP, the fact that Vista used the original code meant that it was still vulnerable. Though the security vulnerabilities brought to attention by Symantec (everyone's favorite company) may have been addressed, chances are there are still a couple (or more) bugs that were previously patched for other OSes that are still present in Windows Vista.
Besides the avoidable kinks mentioned, Vista has another disadvantage in using a brand-new TCP stack for a production-grade OS. All the past builds sent out to testers focused more on stability and performance tests, no one was too concerned with testing the security of the operating system, after all, that doesn't really matter if the OS already crashes on its own. Only now can security professionals truly focus on finding vulnerabilities in Windows Vista. This doesn't mean that there has to be bugs or holes in it, but it just makes it more likely.
But it's not all bad news for Vista. The new networking stack far surpasses Windows XP's or even Linux's networking performance, with internet pages loading up to 8% faster than XP and up to 4% faster than Linux on identical web browsers in our tests (Opera 9.0.1 and Firefox 2.0 Beta). IE7 loaded pages 2% faster on Vista than on XP in our tests. Plus, Vista's domain support is much more functional in Windows Vista than in previous versions to date, which will be a definite advantage in the corporate playing field.
Network and Sharing Center
We first reviewed Vitsa's Network and Sharing Center when it first made its debut in build 5231. Since then it's come a long way from the unstable program and buggy interface it was infamous for. The new Network and Sharing Center provides several very important security enhancements. Instead of making it hard for end-users to safely and securely set up a home network, the Vista Network and Sharing Center puts all the security tools where they belong: right in the users' lap.
Users no longer have to go with an 'all or nothing' approach where you must choose between security or usability, with the new networking center it couldn't be easier. A series of checkboxes and radio buttons let you choose what you want to do, from enabling viewing other PCs, sharing printers, files, and enabling passwords on file shares. It makes it really easy to keep security up and yet keeping everything simple.
What's even more useful is it's adaptable network profiles. Vista will remember every network you connect to, so it can have different security levels at work, home, school, and the local Starbucks without requiring the user to ever press a button. It would be nice to have per-network assignable static IP addresses, but for now, security's good enough. Windows Vista has finally accomplished something special, and with the prevalence of wi-fi hotspots today, it's just in time.
Network Instability
Vista's new network stack isn't perfect, and besides the possible vulnerabilities discussed, Windows Vista does have a couple more shortcomings. Wireless network reception under Windows Vista is several notches less than that under XP, but at the same time it doesn't suffer from the "wi-fi lockup" symptoms that Windows XP was occasionally prone to. Nothing is perfect, and Vista's networking stack isn't an exception. It's good, but it's not perfect. It may be the best, that remains to be seen. It's faster than the rest (including Linux and Mac OS X), but it's not the most stable. The network center doesn't freeze when renewing an IP (what XP's "Repair Connection" button was famous for), but it doesn't always succeed in renewing an IP when it should.. It needs more polishing before it's ready for prime-time.
Productivity
"Productivity" is hard to define, and though we touched on this subject earlier, it's far from being complete. In the subjective summary we outlined how Vista's improved installation and runtime speeds for various programs made it a "more productive" operating system than the rest, but it's much more than that. Vista's productivity suite is getting better and better, with quite a few valuable applications in the mix.
Windows Mail Review
It's no Outlook, but Windows Mail (formerly Outlook Express in case you haven't heard) is no longer in last place when it comes to email clients of choice. With integrated Spell Checking, a much refined interface, performance that's been rewritten from scratch, and a host of a new options (some of which that aren't even available in Outlook 2007 yet!), Windows Mail is in a prime position to overtake Thunderbird as the free Windows email client of choice.
Outlook Express has traditionally lagged behind Outlook TM in that it never was a true PIM. It may have had basic contact support, and with a lot of hacking it could store appointments, but it was more like listing appointments and contacts on a big, messy notepad. It had little to no organization for those fields, and it was near impossible to tie them in together. But now with Windows Vista, Outlook Express Windows Mail is no longer just something a newsgroup client. It interfaces directly with the much improved Windows Contacts and the new Windows Calendar, posing a real challenge to other PIMs of its price (free!) and even threatening to take market share away from Outlook TM.
We're not going into details about Windows Calendar and Windows Contacts right now because they're reviewed right below, but suffice to say that they're quite powerful. What makes Outlook TM different from Windows Mail is once you get to the business aspect of things. For an individual managing the day's activities, Windows Mail and it's various sub-components are more than enough: access to Hotmail or Gmail via the native POP or HTTP webmail protocols, sending messages via SMTP, a place to store your contacts, a way to reference them from emails or appointments and vice versa; it's enough.
But when you get to anything more than that, say a way to access the company's Exchange Server 2007, or if you have to manage various profiles and several accounts; and at the same time juggle several calendars for various appointments, Windows Mail just won't cut it. Windows Mail is missing anything that is normally associated with businesses, such as SharePoint compatibility or even the ability to minimize to the taskbar, something that has long been requested from Microsoft (you can use Nighthawk's WMTray application to pull that off though!). But overall, Windows Mail has everything the average home user or technology enthusiast will ever need from a mail client, including RSS support and a very flexible frontend.
Windows Calendar
You can take a look at Windows Calendar for yourself, it's quite easy on the eyes. At face value, it's very similar to Outlook 2007's own stunning calendar design (which is no surprise, it's the same company after all!), but that's about where the similarities end. That's not to say it's not a good program, but you need to put it in its place. Windows Calendar is a great utility to quickly schedule appointments and keep track of your time, but if you're looking for an advanced interface that lets you synchronize your mobile device with your contacts and merge the info into your calendar, you're out of luck. Even without the mobile device bit.
Windows Calendar is a home utility that lets you put your appointments in a graphical interface, create occurrences, remember your wife's anniversary and your kid's half-birthday, and that's about it. The funny thing is, it synchronizes with SharePoint Server. No, we're not kidding. It literally strips all the (really useful) information out of the SharePoint sync, then it pastes it as plain text smack-dab in the middle of your calendar. Useful, but a bit unbalanced. If Microsoft is going to provide SharePoint connectivity as an option, what about SharePoint compatibility too?
Windows Contacts
Windows Contacts is Windows ME's "Windows Address Book" reborn. There's only so much innovation that can go into an address book itself (by "itself" we mean other than interoperability with email clients and Exchange servers), and Windows Contacts seems to have mastered them all. It's the WAB with several new fields, and a kick-ass new interface to match. It looks Vista through and through (which is more than we can say for some other applications *cough* Windows Mail *cough*), and has all the 3D effects one would expect from their everyday address book. After all, what's a contact manager without several photos for each contact and revolving 3D frames around their (hopefully) smiling faces? OK, maybe this bit of the review isn't all that deep, but it's an address book, it works, it looks OK, and it synchronizes with Windows Messenger (but not WLM) and Windows Mail. What more do you need?
Windows Meeting Space
Windows Meeting Space is one of those things in Windows Vista that have been severely under-advertised thus far. It's an amazing improvement over NetMeeting, with support for ad hoc wireless networks to create a meeting, perfect for those last-minute meetings in the big conference rooms where you plan to fire the IT guy because of how easy it makes using advanced features on the PC.
Windows Meeting Space is a NetMeeting replacement, but you wouldn't guess it from the performance or the interface. It works perfectly with any microphone or webcam that Windows Vista recognizes (the whole bunch really), and seems to work great with 802.11b even, though with slightly less quality than 802.11g-capable laptops. However, it disappoints us that there is no remote capabilities available, so that other users can tunnel-in through the big tubes that connect computers together all around the world.
It only works with Wi-Fi networks as far as we can tell, so that's kind of a disappointment. It also doesn't allow for "server-mode" connections and is capped at a maximum of 10 users (probably for bandwidth reasons, and it can probably be hacked by a registry tweak). It's a no-nonsense application, it's not heavy on graphics like the rest of Vista, but it works.
WordPad
Believe it or not, Windows Vista ships with WordPad in its original undying glory and complete with its antediluvian icons. It's amazing just how well this amazing program has survived through the years, ever since Windows 95 when we were thrilled to see a Notepad replacement that didn't actually replace Notepad. Seriously speaking though, if Microsoft isn't going to provide a heavily stripped-down version of Microsoft Word 2003 (no need for 2007!), then they shouldn't ship Vista with WordPad included.
It's a down-right shame for such a modern OS to have spell-checking in it's Calendar but not in its word processor. WordPad needs to go, and MS needs to figure that out. But the odds are, come Windows Vienna, WordPad will still be there (together with the ever-living Fonts Dialog!!).
Windows Vista Security Review
Microsoft's currently advertising Windows Vista as being "The Most Secure Windows Ever!" Well, it had better be, because becoming less secure with each passing version sure isn't a pretty sight to see. But they're right, it is more secure than Windows XP, and even more secure than Windows Server 2003, which really is something. Believe it or not, it's actually on-par with Linux and Mac OS X as far as defensive mechanisms go, with little to no BS involved this time around.
General Malware/Vulnerability Security
Windows Vista has a new TCP/IP stack built from the ground up with security in mind. As priorly discussed, it's not purely new code; a lot of old code from Windows XP has been recycled, but that doesn't necessarily make it just as insecure. A vulnerability can come into being due to poorly coded TCP/IP networking stacks, or it come as a result of poorly designed networking stacks.
Vista uses old code at the low level. So that bit is theoretically poorly coded, and hence the vulnerabilities that Symantec reported exist. These are vulnerabilities in the Windows Core from older versions of Windows that were patched in subsequent hotfixes, but weren't applied to the base code, therefore they weren't present in Windows Vista. These kinds of bugs are one-time fixes. They probably still exist in Windows Vista, but they're easy fixes, and most of them have probably pinned down in recent builds (the Symantec report is ancient).
The second type of vulnerability has largely been eliminated (as far as our security team has been able to discern with our limited testing on Vista thus far). Windows Vista's new networking stack has been redesigned from scratch, and the new networking stack seems to be resistant to the traditional attacks. Besides the fact that it was designed with security in mind, it is also genuinely more secure. With lighter code and less bloat, there's no need to spread your security team too thin. And even more importantly, it has a properly designed designated route-of-traffic, which dictates where and when traffic packets go through. Windows finally has an organized networking stack that seems to properly deal with incoming network bits, and can properly classify incoming & outgoing communications the way they should be. It's a good sign.
The new Windows Firewall bears no semblance to its original namesake, the Windows XP Firewall. To be totally frank, it's most similar to the firewall that ships with ISA Server 2006 - one of the very best enterprise-grade firewalls out there! For Windows XP and Windows Server 2003 NeoSmart Technologies' firewall choice has long been the Symantec-razed Sygate Personal Firewall Pro, which far surpassed the Windows XP Firewall and all other 3rd party firewalls.
However, the new Windows Firewall sits right in MMC 3.0, and taps right into the power it provides. It's easy to make new rules, and they're even more powerful than the traffic signatures that Sygate allows users to create. Plus, it's on by default, ships with it activated, and the only satisfactory way to turn it off is to install an alternate firewall or disable the firewall service. It's brilliant, and it's just as powerful as the new Linux firewalls and as protecting as SELinux - but with an excellent graphic interface to match.
But to a lot of people what matters is how it works with the firewall off! In a word, it works great. Between UAC/LUA (see below) and the enhanced Internet Explorer security rules and the redesigned TCP/IP Windows core, it's quite a secure deal.
Internet Explorer Security
Windows Internet Explorer 7+ (as it is now called) is a far cry from the pitiful excuse for a web browser that was IE6. We already reviewed Internet Explorer 7 Beta 3 and RC1 before, but here's a de-brief on the security status of Internet Explorer at RC1.
- Phishing protection that actually works
Back when the MSN Toolbar for IE6 with phishing protection came out, every other site was marked as suspicious, unless of course, it really was, then it was marked as OK. But with IE7, it properly detects certain types of phishing sites and offers heightened security when browsing dangerous parts of the web. - Invalid certificate warnings
If a page claims to be secured but for some reason its certificate doesn't match, IE will no longer politely inform you of it in the taskbar. Instead, it takes the prerogative and refuses to open the page until you are doubly-sure of the URI you entered and where you want to go. - Script Blocking
JavaScript windows such as message boxes are now blocked unless you click the toolbar to temporarily allow the site, unless its already on your trusted sites list. - Internet Explorer is no longer integrated with Windows Explorer
- International Domain Support w/ Anti-Domain Name Spoofing
- ActiveX Controls must be clicked to activate
- Status bar can no longer be modified
- Protection against many previous JavaScript XSS attacks
- New 256-bit cipher strength for encrypted transactions
- New "Protected Mode"
The browser runs in a sandbox with even lower rights than a limited user account. As such, it can write to only the Temporary Internet Files folder and cannot install start-up programs or change any configuration of the operating system without communicating through a broker process. - Improved pop-up blocking
The most important of these is Internet Explorer's "Protected Mode," which is the epitome of online security. Your web browser runs in a virtual environment with practically no rights. To access data on your PC (not temporary internet files but real, hard data) it must "tunnel in" through a specifically established protocol where the user is prompted every step of the way. At first it's annoying, but when you realize that 99% of all vulnerabilities find their way to the PC via the web browser, you'll come to appreciate it. Just for example, the WMF vulnerability of December 2005? With Protected Mode it would have never been an issue. It's not a fix for a particular bug, it's a protective measure that just works.
User Account Protection
Several builds ago, UAC was the most irritating concept to ship with windows Vista to date. Three builds later, UAC has actually been perfected. User Account Protection properly safeguards limited users and administrators alike from the power they wield. It may not be much, but the power any locally logged on PC user is a hundred-fold more than what a hacker needs to bring a PC down to its knees, and UAC magically steps in to make sure you know what it is you're doing.
But for many, it's just as important for the operating system to "not get in the way" as it is for it to protect the user. Four builds ago, it took 7 steps to delete a simple, innocent, meaningless icon from the desktop while logged in as an administrator! But never fear, it's been fixed since. Now, UAC doesn't bother you at all unless you open a system properties dialog or try to delete a system file. And when it does, it's really nice about it, it only asks once and then it lets you do what you like.
Compare this to Windows XP or, god forbid, Windows 98/ME (not that we're going to!). In Windows XP, an administrator could do anything he or she wanted, and quite a few things they didn't want. For instance, if an administrator wanted to delete a couple of system files, there would be nothing to stop them - no problem. But if a program that snuck into the system under the administrator account tried to delete those files, it would also be allowed without batting an eye. On Vista, it's easier. If you really want to delete that file, you can. But if something tries to delete it without your permission, Vista will make sure you know about it, and ensure nothing goes wrong without your knowledge.
It's even better than Linux. I never thought I'd live to the day when I can honestly say "Windows security for user accounts is much better than that of Linux." Scary? Unbelievable? It's true. Linux has two types of accounts: Normal, and Super-User. That's like having "Restricted User" and "Administrator" on Windows, with nothing in between. On Windows, there are a hundred different in-between accounts, and users can actually log on as Administrator for day-to-day activities. Even more so, on Linux when you request higher privileges
su -
You can then proceed and do whatever you like. On Windows, it's a per-task deal. Both are secure, but, believe it or not, Windows is more secure - from that aspect anyway.
Internet Explorer 7 Review
We may have reviewed Internet Explorer 7 RC1 when it first came out for Windows XP and Windows Server 2003, but this is a different kind of review. That review focused on improvements in RC1 over Beta 3, and expectations for IE7 RTM. Here we'll be focusing on improvements in IE7 since version 6 SP2, and even a couple of things that make Internet Explorer 7 a better browser than the competition - and where it fails.
Compatibility
Before anyone can discuss compatibility in the same sentence as Internet Explorer, it's important to remember one thing: this is a browser that comes from a company that, six short years ago, made all the rules. It's going to be a long road to recovery for this browser, and in the words of Microsoft itself, "fix the most significant bugs and areas which caused the most trouble for developers, and then improved coverage of the standards would come later." Internet Explorer 6 was a standards-in-compliant mess, and Internet Explorer 7 is a very decent effort at cleaning up IE's act.
Internet Explorer 7 is 100% compatible (or as near to it as possible) with HTML 4.01, CSS 1, XML 1.0, XSLT 1.0, and DOM v1. These were the technologies of the 90s, and if IE7 wasn't compatible with them then it would have no hope. As of RC1 however, it is also mostly compliant with XHTML 1.0 with the exception of the infamous DIV Rounding Error that has been repeatedly bugged and will most likely not be fixed by RTM; resulting in the incorrect rendering of a majority of complex XHTML 1.1 site designs.
Internet Explorer 7's CSS 2 support is patchy but consistent: in keeping with their above-mentioned goal for IE7, Microsoft has provided near-complete support for initial display-based CSS commands, such as those used for DIV "table" designs, initial-layouts, and other pure-design elements of the CSS 2 standard.
Where IE7 fails is when it comes to DOM-related CSS changes, CSS hover effects, browser-specific entities like textarea:XXX, etc. aren't very well implemented (as can be seen here on this blog). Anything dealing with dynamic HTML entities, things that change with response to the users actions: where they click, where they point, what drop-down item they select; those things aren't well implemented with IE7, and as such most AJAX implementations made for IE6/FF2 will need to be completely overhauled to make them work with the new generation of Internet Explorer.
Security
In the previous section we lightly discussed Internet Explorer 7's major security enhancements, and in particular, the new Protected Mode. Protected Mode is an extra layer of protection of that provides a way for Internet Explorer to run in its own memory space with less permissions than even a guest account with UAC, in what is practically a virtual environment with no unmonitored access to anything on the local PC other than the temporary internet files.
In order for Internet Explorer to request data from the local PC (say a file to upload or a configuration file or ActiveX to load) it must go through a pre-configured tunnel wherein it is subject to a variety of tests as specified in the Windows core and culminating with a user-prompted UAC dialog for any such activity. It may be a tad strenuous, but seeing as virtually all vulnerabilities come from the web in one form or the other, it's definitely worth it.
These extra layers of security that have been added throughout Vista's development period are true innovations in the quest for fail-proof security. They have never been seen before, and even browsers with a relatively clean vulnerability history like Safari or Konqueror are far from having the advanced security present in the more recent IE7 and Windows Vista builds - a true accomplishment and an honest surprise.
Features
Although a browsers primary function is to render and style (X)HTML into a human-readable format, browsers have traditionally taken on a greater role in the past. While most of the features are along the lines of improving the end users' online experience, each browser adds its own special twist - its what sets them apart in the end. Here's what we like about IE.
- Improved clutter-free design. No toolbars if you don't want them, and even the menu bars are hidden by default.
- Quick Tabs: Microsoft's answer to all those tabs. With Quick Tabs you can see (a very low quality and highly blurred JPEG) image recap of every tab you have open. It used to look nicer before with PNG captures, but that's MS for you.
- 100% compatible OpenSearch implementation. While Firefox has the broken Moz Search, Internet Explorer has finally obeyed standards to the tee, and provides the first true & complete OpenSearch implementation on a big-name browser.
- Integrated RSS Platform: With IE7 and Windows Vista, feeds are right across programs via the new Windows RSS Platform. It means you can subscribe once and read anywhere. Really innovative, and really cool.
- Improved printing technology: Not that anyone prints any more, but with IE7 the text (or image) never runs off the side of the page. The new print preview dialog also provides an excellent way to play around with the margins and see how it'll print. No more wasted paper!
- Nifty zoom control at the bottom of the page. Unlike the text-size control, this zooms the entire screen, images and tables included.
- Direct integration with Windows Media Player: Click a WMA or WMV file on the web and it's streamed straight to your desktop. You don't need fancy server-side streaming technology nor do you have to wait for the media to download, it just plays. Right away.
There are quite a few new things in Internet Explorer 7. Their only goal? To reclaim lost end-usership.. It's too early to tell if it'll work, but one thing is for sure: Internet Explorer 7 is going to put up quite a fight.
Final Thoughts
It doesn't really matter how much Internet Explorer 7 has improved over previous versions, what matters is how they market it. Those that don't study history are doomed to repeat it, and if previous trends are any measure, Microsoft is in for a very tough battle. Back in 2003 when Windows Server 2003 was released, it came on the heels of the ever-buggy and more-holes-than-swiss-cheese Windows Server 2000 with IIS 5.0. While Windows Server 2003 was (and still is) one of the most secure server operating systems ever released to date (Linux and BSD included); it had a bad name and a very long rep sheet it needed to make up for. IIS 6 had fewer major vulnerabilities than you have fingers on one of your hands (assuming you haven't lost too many of them!), but its bad reputation with IIS 5.0 stuck, and to this day, few are willing to believe that IIS 6 really is that secure (it is).
Internet Explorer 7 is now in the same spot IIS 6 was in 4 years ago. If Microsoft decides to pretend that IE6 wasn't a mistake, that it was a normal, everyday kind of web browser that was just mistreated and gossiped about, it won't go down well. But it doesn't seem that way. To date, Microsoft and especially the Internet Explorer team have been very forthcoming with criticism for their past mistakes for Internet Explorer 6, and have repeatedly promised they'd do their best to avoid making the same mistake twice.
It all depends on RTM and where Microsoft goes from there. With Windows, it's been one version of Internet Explorer per OS, and that was the death of IE6. But if Microsoft is willing to continue constant development of upgrades and not hotfixes for IE7 that add functionality and improvements to the browser, leading up to and including Internet Explorer 8.0, anything can happen. Yes, even Internet Explorer 7 regaining its good name and Microsoft coming clean. Even that.
Windows Vista & Entertainment Reviewed
Windows Media Player 11 Review
Windows Media Player 11 isn't much of an upgrade as far as features are concerned. It's a media player. After a media player reaches a certain level, it's hard for it to keep improving drastically. But there are differences for those that pay close attention, and some of these can be quite useful.
- Improved Foreign Language Support
People that listen to songs or audio in foreign languages no longer have to put up with spyware-ridden bloatware like RealOne, Windows Media Player 11 has finally perfected its international character support for RTL and East-Asian languages, and it looks great. This is one of the most important improvements present in Windows Media Player, and well worth the new version number all on its lonesome. - Refined (Kick-Ass) Interface
Windows Media Player has certainly come along way from the simple gray rectangle with a moving bar that it was back in Windows 95 (even if other programs haven't *cough* WordPad *cough*). The new default album-oriented interface looks great, and more importantly, it organizes your songs in an easy-to-use way that means that you don't spend as much time looking for the songs you want and you get to spend more time listening to them instead. - Search Your Albums
Windows Vistaiswas all about making information accessible, and WMP 11 is no different. With WMP 11, you can easily search (via the toolbar at the top-right) your catalog by album, artist, genre, and more (lyrics too!!). It's easy to find what you want and even create "virtual albums" as the results of a search. Perfect for those party playlists! - New Visualizations
Not exactly something to wet your pants over, but its something new nevertheless. We were never fans of WMP 9 & 10's old visualizations: they weren't random, they weren't pretty, and they seem old school. With a bit of subtle tweaking it seems that WMP 11 actually has us enrapturing by the majority of the new (well, modified) visualizations. And if you look closely enough, sometimes the visualizations go translucent and give you a peek at what's behind. Bug? Maybe. Cool? Definitely! - Improved Performance
It might be placebo or it could be Vista's enhanced networking, or maybe it's real, but WMP 11 seems to buffer streaming music and video faster than its predecessor. That with its faster loading and improved playlist support (it doesn't buckle under too many songs any more) makes WMP 11 a great all-around-kind of player.
There really isn't much to be said for WMP 11. It's really good, it looks great, it doesn't eat too much memory, it sounds great, it has excellent audio boosts, and it's probably the very best player out there at the moment. It certainly beats iTunes, and unless you are already in love with Media Player Classic (not Microsoft's), then this is definitely for you.
Games
It's been a long time since Microsoft provided a new source of entertainment go along with an OS, but this is Vista, and entertainment is a big deal. Several new games, great graphics, and a terrific interface makes these games worth wasting your time over.
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Chess Titans
Microsoft contracted Oberon Media to create Chess Titans, the first-ever board game to ship with a Windows PC. It's your traditional chess game - but powered by Aero with glass chess men and a glossy board. It looks great (take a look at the full-screen render in that link), but it's hard. Really hard. It doesn't scale too well, the difference between a difficulty level of 2 and a difficulty level of 9 is that you last a couple of rounds longer. Are you up to the challenge? -
Mahjong Titans
Also designed for Microsoft by Oberon Media, Mahjong Titans is takes an ancient game to a whole new playing field. Mahjong is of Chinese origin, traditionally played with ceramic tiles with colored letters and symbols. It's a bit confusing at first, but its an excellent family pastime, like the the kid's game "Memory" but with a twist. Again, Oberon Media have outdone themselves with excellent graphics and wonderful animations. -
Purble Palace
Although people aren't taking this game seriously right now, it certainly is a very big step for Microsoft and other software giants around the world. Forever now, the PC has been primarily a teen+ machine. For the little kinds there was nothing but paint (and maybe pinball..), but now that's changed. It's rare to find games like this shipping with a PC, and its nothing too special as far as kids games go, but it's good enough.. We're not exactly sure what the point of the game is, and it doesn't seem to have a plot, but then again, children don't need one. It has a memory game, a "cake baking" game, and a "make-my-face-over" game... Kids these days! -
Minesweeper
This age-old game that first shipped with Windows 3.1, and hadn't changed all the way to XP.. It's finally been given a make-over with Windows Vista. It's the same game, but now the excellent animations, the blue hues, the explosions of mines, and the sound effects make it look more like Battlefield; but it's the same great game nonetheless. -
Card Games
All the traditional Windows card games and the new ones that came with Windows XP are there in Windows Vista. And all of them have been given a major face-lift. 3D hi-res card faces are the craze, and the animations and light sound effects just make the whole game playing experience a bit more thrilling and a lot more interesting. They're all there: Solitaire, Spider Solitaire, Hearts, end even FreeCell - and they all look great. -
InkBall
Technically it's a game for those unloved Tablet PC users, but it's OK for a normal guy looking to pass the time. InkBall's not difficult on a normal PC, and it would be even easier on a Tablet PC, but at least its not another card game. It looks like a good game, and just like the rest of them it has a polished interface and smooth light and sound animations. -
Pinball
It's not there any more. Since it's not there, it technically doesn't deserve it's own section here, but then again, why would Microsoft dump one of it's most popular games ever without even a good excuse? They could have left it as it was, they could have had Oberon Games improve the effects; but instead Microsoft just pulled the plug.
Windows DVD Maker
When Windows XP first came out, it didn't even have a decent CD burning wizard, and people were forced to use pitiful supplements like Roxio's buggy CD-Burning Suite. But Windows Vista seems to be prepared and with the times. No, this OS won't be the first to natively support Mt. Rainer for drag-and-drop mountable CD and DVD authoring interfaces that let you treat a CD like a hard drive, but it does provide an easy and reliable way to author DVDs (and CDs too if you still use them!) any way you like. Together with Windows Movie Maker (see the next section), Windows users can finally easily burn any type of data to a DVD.
If you want to a simple montage of pictures and movie clips then you can use the Windows DVD Maker to put them in the order of your choice and save them as DVD image ready for burning (natively via Windows). If you want to save documents or files to a CD/DVD, the procedure hasn't improved much over Windows XP's in-built CD-burning wizard. You open "My Computer," select the CD/DVD writer, open it, and copy the files you want burned to the folder. Then you click burn and you're done.
However, as far as we can tell this is where the similarities end. The IMAPI service, long one of XP's weak points, has been completely overhauled. CDs burn at much faster average rates than before, sessions no longer fail (thus far anyway), and the service no longer consumes > 60% of the CPU nor does it cause system instability. At the end of the day, Windows' DVD burning facilities don't stand out too much, but they're adquate for most purposes, and there really isn't much room for criticism here.
Windows Movie Maker
The complement to Windows DVD Maker, Windows Movie Maker is the tool of choice for amatuer home movie making. It provides a lot of the higher quality effects provided with intermediate-level movie editing like Sony Vega or entry-level products such as Sonic MyDVD. It looks decent, it provides an easy-to-use "time-line graph" for piecing the bits of the movie together, and most importantly, it burns the DVDs (with menus) perfectly every time.
Screensavers
While screensavers may not exactly be the highlight of an operating system (no more than Windows Vista's stunning wallpapers at any rate!), they're considered entertainment for some of us, so here's the list (click the names for a screen capture):
- Aurora
A (really ugly?) dark screensaver that is supposed to instill nostalgia in the hearts and stomachs of everyone in the room. If it's your style.. - Bubbles
A play on the old Windows 95 Plus! screensavers that didn't actually hide your desktop but just added effects to the stuff on it. The bubbles look great, and are a perfect display of Vista's graphics animation power... They're really purty. - Mystify
It's the bars screensaver with a twist.. New motions and animations make this subtle screensaver a really nice thing to have. - Ribbons
The Windows 2000 "Pipes" screensaver? Take that, remove the 3D pipe and the 90-degree angles. Looks ok, adds a bit of a flare to your desktop. - Windows Energy
This one is part of the Aurora suite, it's the same theme, different animations, same sick feeling in the gut. - Windows Logo Screensaver
Every recent version of Windows has shipped with a logo screensaver, but this one's different. Between every time the flag disappears and reappears something know as the "Aero Flare" shows up, and it's a nice, flashy effect to watch. It's also random, so that makes it a bit more .. umm.. interesting. (The screencapture is modified to show the two phases and the fade-effect in between)
Paint
There really isn't much to be said.. After all our ranting about WordPad and ancient font dialogs, Microsoft told us there might be some improvements for Paint lined up down the line, but it seems that it's not going to happen - unless Microsoft pulls another Windows XP on us between RC and RTM and does some major changes to non-core components (such as the design and extra apps like this). But, but, there is one change: the paintbrush colors are now at the top!
Windows Vista's Media Center in Review
Windows Media Center is one of the biggest improvements and most significant new features in Windows Vista. The new interface (which we cannot take screencaptures of - read on) is really nice, and far surpasses the rest of Windows Vista in terms of true style and nice effects, not overdone, but great looking nonetheless. It appears that in between build 5472 and RC1 somewhere along the way Microsoft decided to switch from the native Windows forms API to a DirectX-powered rendering engine (which cannot be captured with Print Screen).
The interface hasn't changed much (at all) since 5456 however, so these old captures show how it really is. The only reason Microsoft would switch to a different rendering engine is in an attempt to improve Media Center performance, which has thus far been absoloutely dismal. Unfortunately, it doesn't seem to have been of any use. Media Center still bogs down even our powerful test machine (Core 2 Duo Inspiron), takes forever to load, and is laggy at the best of times.
Windows Media Center is now a complete OS Shell in its own right: without leaving it you can connect to wireless networks, search the web for music and videos to watch, configure your display, resolution, and audio (independantly of the rest of the OS), as well as tune in to your cable or sattellite TV channels. In a word, it's complete. But it's terrible.
There may still be hope for it, after RC1, technically speaking, all a company should do is optimize, and optimize some more. But at the same time, RC1 is full of optimizations for other parts of the OS, and nothing hasn't been optimized.. except for Windows Media Center. It's a real shame because it's far better than it's predecessor, Windows Media Center Edition, and all it needs is a bit of effort to make it great..
Power, Portability, and Mobility with Windows Vista
Previous versions of Windows shipped as an operating system and nothing more. As seen in the previous pages, Windows Vista is going to lenghts to make it a lot more user-friendly from the minute you install it; and perhaps here is where it’s most visible. The normal way of making a laptop travel friendly was to install all the extra junk that comes from the OEM in order to add better battery power-profiling and mobility applications.
Windows Vista come’s with three things that make this different (different isn’t necessarily better though!). First is the excellent power-profiling plans, and then there are two more applications dedicated to mobile users – in theory they’re great, but in reality, not so much.
Power Profiling on Windows Vista
If you ask anyone about power profiles on Windows, they’ll tell you two things: One, that they’re really easy to set up, and two, that they just plain suck. Vista changes that. It still has the plain-and-simple power dialog, but at the same time, it introduces a new and very powerful advanced settings window.
From there you can specify how your laptop (or desktop for that matter) acts to anything, down to the last detail. You can configure what happens to PCI-E and AGP devices separately, you can define triggers (power source, button press, lid closing, etc.) and make complex plans that suite you perfectly. With it, you can make sure you use power only when you need it and that when you really need it, it’ll be there for sure. It’s not that easy to configure, and it’s not too well labeled on some things, and there seem to be certain drop-down boxes missing the “never” option, but it’s really great.
Mobile Synchronization
Ever since Windows CE first came out and the PDA craze began, Windows users have been forced to use a wide range of increasingly crappy and unstable mobile synchronization programs in order to keep their data up-to-date – until ActiveSync 4.0 that is. ActiveSync and its predecessors were unstable, prone to extreme data loss, and sudden, unfixable no-longer-working moments.
But when Windows Mobile 5.0 came out last year with its excellent PDAs, Microsoft decided to do something about it, and ActiveSync 4.0 was released. It was great; and didn’t suffer from any of the old issues, and Microsoft promised to integrate it with their upcoming Windows Vista and let the fireworks fly. But unfortunately, Microsoft just bungled it up again.
The “ActiveSync” that comes with Windows Vista is worse than the versions that shipped with Windows-based PDAs ages ago, and almost never works. When it does its slow and tempramental, and only synchronizes with Windows Mobile 5.0 PDAs; no Windows CE or PPC (2002/2003) PDAs work with it. To top things off, Microsoft also decided to take the perogative and disable ActiveSync from running on Windows Vista – so PDA users are, at the moment, left stranded. Let’s not forget, this is RC1, and Vista isn’t complete.. But RC1 is supposed to be code-complete and virtually ready for release…. *grumbles*
Portability & Performance
Windows Vista comes with enhanced networking all over the place. It looks great, and it’s really powerful, but (just like everything else) it has terrible performance. Wireless network profiling is great, with automatic detection of networks and on-the-fly network security application. But wireless reception is absoloutely dismal at best, and if a wireless network loses range, 9 out of 10 times you have to restart your PC for the signal to become visible once more.
Bluetooth can partner with phones and PDAs without a hitch, and even send files… but don’t think about receiving anything without a really big, bad headache. Performance is OK, but if it can’t receive files, what’s left?
Interoperability & Program Compatibilty on Windows Vista
Windows Vista has done well with program compatibilty, which has steadily improved since the first alpha & even beta builds. At any rate, it’s far better than when people started to use Windows XP straight from Windows 9x; that was a completely different kernel and gave everyone hell all over the place (remember Roxio anyone?).
Windows Vista offers several layers of program compatibility ranging in ease of use and likelihood of success.
- Basic backwards API compatibility
Windows Vista’s API preserves most (almost all) previous functions. This means that if you coded an application (or are using an application that was coded) in a way that is 100% compliant (or close to that) with the Windows API, not breaking any rules or using any unpublished hacks, the program should work perfectly on Windows Vista by RTM. This requires no end-user action, and works automatically, and without issue all of the time. - Windows XP Compatibilty Mode
Enabling Windows XP Compatibility Mode on Windows Vista takes place on a per-application basis. Basically, you view the properties for an executable file, and tell it to enable Compatibility Mode – and Vista “takes care” of the rest. Basically it attempts to head-off incorrectly coded programs by “intercepting” calls to no longer present files or functions in the Windows Core. Success rate is a modest 70% – 85% for most “normal” applications that don’t do any low-level access or modification. This isn’t Computer Programming 101, so that’s it for now. - Virtual Store
This is one of Windows Vista’s big changes. With the enormous underlying changes to the NT kernel with Windows Vista, sometimes the first two just don’t cut it. Microsoft has a decent solution of sorts, where it runs programs in a “virtual” environment. It’s not like Apple’s on-the-fly virtualization for pre-OS X software, but it provides a folder with on-the-fly sym-linking for any of the major files. It has all the old XP directories and DLLs (though they’re not actually there) and is an excellent idea for running old code well without resorting to the bad-performing virtual machines. But there is one problem: it doesn’t always pick up when it should be used and when it shouldn’t; and severe loss of data may occur.
Overall, Windows Vista’s compatibility with Windows XP programs is good. Not spectactular, but nowhere as poor as originally forecast.
Drivers on Windows Vista is another story. Theoretically, it’s good. Indeed most XP drivers work great with Windows Vista, even video and audio – which are the areas with new driver models, though they do disable the newer features such as virtual sound and Aero/DWM. But if a driver contains a single line of 16–bit code (as many “unified driver kits” do), Vista will go on the fritz and never boot again. Examples include the latest versions of XP drivers for Creative’s audio devices which include Unified Driver Support for the older 16–bit audio cards.
On the whole, interoperability is good.. Not perfect, but quite good and fairly thorough. In all likelihood, a user running the newest versions of the most popular media/productivity/business/eduction programs won’t have to bat an eye. But be careful nevertheless!
Overall Performance of Windows Vista RC1
Technically speaking, after RC1 all what happens is performance tweaks and slight appearance changes. Obviously Microsoft has a lot more than that to accomplish in the upcoming builds, but nevertheless, this section in particular applies to Windows Vista RC1 and RC1 alone. That said, Windows Vista has undeniably improved performance-wise since the last build.
RC1 has improved memory management (and all the leaks have been plugged too!!) but more importantly (from the layman’s point of view), Windows Vista has been optimized. Very much. Each and every line of code seems to have been thoroughly cleaned up and heavily scrubbed. Debug code is (mostly) all gone, and the rest has been optimized on a processor-architecture basis.
Memory usage in Windows Vista RC1 is surprisingly close to Windows XP + a bit of overhead. For example, Windows Vista seems to be stuck on 500MB of memory. It boots at or around that much (in use!!), but the surprising thing is, it keeps it that way. With Windows Internet Explorer 7 and Outlook 2007 running, Windows Vista consumes 550MB of memory. With Visual Studio .NET 2k5 on top of that, it reaches 600.
It’s obvious that the base architecture of the Windows NT Kernel has been completely revamped and geared towards maximum performance, but nevertheless, don’t let the numbers above fool you. That’s 500–600 MB of memory in use on average! That means, it’ll go up, it’ll go down, and it all depends on what you’re running and what it’s running on. If you turn off Aero (and use Aero Express instead) 512MB will be barely enough. Turn on Aero, and watch your memory fly.
Somewhere along the way, Microsoft realized that the majority of PCs on the market today lull users into buying them boasting high clock speeds for the CPU: Everything else is garbage. So Microsoft switched from GPU-driven animations to a more balanced mix of CPU/GPU, which means the memory takes a hit. Open several Windows Explorer windows and watch the memory soar. It’s not the program, after all, it’s just a shell. Rather, all the nice Aero effects on the window borders and the desktop naturally bog the system down. So stock up on the memory, you’re going to need it.
The shameful thing is that Microsoft still refuses to use processor-specific commands. That means all those memory optimizations, from MMX to SSE4 are useless. When Microsoft planned to make Windows Longhorn run on .NET, it meant higher memory usage but much more efficient utilization of the CPU! .NET automatically converts programs (and operating systems) from .NET pre-compile code (ILDASM) to processor-specific commands. That means it automatically applies whatever processor-specific architectural commands it can find, and runs your programs on them. That’s really the biggest (and one of the few) advantage of .using NET for an OS, but it can easily be circumvented by proper coding techniques that ensure an application uses some of the mandated architectural requirements. But Windows Vista doesn’t.
Although (as previously discussed), Windows Vista on the whole is quite snappy and runs certain programs that tie into Windows services quite fast, some parts of Windows Vista are still not up to scratch. Namely, Windows Media Center. We talked about this earlier in our WMC review, but it certainly deserves another mention here. WMC blows – quite literally. Performance is terrible, the amazing GUI effects are completely undermined by the too-visible lag and the frame-freezes. Playing a DVD in WMC is far less of a media experience than playing it on Windows Media Player. And no, it’s not the drivers, because with Aero Express on and using the real and fully optimized Windows XP drivers in compatibility mode, WMC is just a bit better. WMC needs help, and Microsoft needs to know.
That’s RC1, and it’s bound to change. It’s improved by leaps and bounds, but it still has a long way to go, because despite what everyone else may say, Windows Vista isn’t “just” an upgrade to Windows XP, it’s also a challenge to Mac OS X and Linux, and at the moment, it’s not winning any awards or making many switch. It’s a good upgrade, but that’s just not good enough.

Just a new skin for XP, a few .NET programs, more games, more eye candy, more complexity, more "security" (and more bugs for new items), more, more, and more. IMHO, UI should be as simple as it can be, and the colors should not make eyes to ake.. I'm still not tested it, and probably will not, even after release (if it will happen). I better stick with my GNOME on Xgl/Compiz. Cheers.
I am sorry, but I have to agree with all of this review. Vista is in limbo and the performance even in RC1 x86 and x64 isn't gonna cut it. This OS needs work, I want to see better performance, I need AERO to stop hogging my CPU and memory. Great review CG, keep up the great work.
Too many windows for networking too, Windows Classic has been botched.
I will believe Symantec over "neosmart" or should I say "microsoft" with a different face. I have tested the latest release and I have done my own security tests and find that the newly written TCP/IP stack is not any more secure and everyone will find this to be true some day. It is very obvious that microsoft paid neosmart to publish this article. . . so anyone that is so gullible let them believe it. I will stick with XP for a long time to come.
Reads like a fanboy review. Peppered with comparisons with other OSes that aren't backed up with numbers. Testing network stacks by looking at web page load times in browsers? You gotta be kidding me. The reviewers' lack of knowledge shows through in many places throughout the review.
I can't believe I went through a 12-page-ad I want my time back
hmm the user account stuff and comparison with linux is wrong. linux has like 20 or 30 user accounts on most systems. Simply take a look at /etc/passwd. Any user id below 1000 is commonly used for system programs, daemon etc. They do not run with the super users priviledge, simply have their own. The super user is simply the one that can administrate them all if necessary. Even in the case of programs requiring super user access, e-g, SSH, it drops down to the SSH user after session startup.
But that's just the basics. There are high security solutions that you can enable afterwards, like http://www.rsbac.org
OK, I usually just bs'ed how Vista will be a total OS X and KDE ripoff, but your dissection just proves me right. I mean, "Windows Mail" and such? I'm surprised that the other apps aren't called wCal, wDVD, wMovie...
It might have the "greatest GUI ever", but what's good of it when it's just a copy of other well established GUIs?
And I'll have to agree with the other commenters - your Linux comparison comments have a very simplified and shallow look to reality due to Windows propaganda, but that's just the world we live in...
The ball must go. I cannot stand the round ball that protrudes on the start menu. Who are the interface designers.
Oh MS, is this what we have been waiting for. Truely sad. Scrap it all together and start over.
Face it, unless ???UX desktop software comes preinstalled on PCs you can buy at Best Buy, Circuit City, etc.: unless it can flawlessly run MS Office (including Exchange and Visio); unless it can run every other piece of commercial and obscure software that currently runs on the MS O/S, it'll never fly in suburbia! Recall the adab=ge used throughout the business world decades ago "Nobody ever got fired buying IBM?" Well, guess what they've now replaced the IBM monicker for?
Nice review, but how can you say something like "Each and every line of code seems to have been thoroughly cleaned up and heavily scrubbed."?
Previously in the same review you said the TCP stack ported code direct from the XP TCP stack, then in your summary you say something like this....
Apart from that, thanks for the overview!
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You are that funny! This is a typical review of people comparing Windows with other OSes, but not having any clue of the other ones.
Let's see: You compare Vista's user account security model with the one of "Linux" - ie Unix (did you ever hear of that one?). You claim: "Windows is better than Linux". But most times I hear that, it is basically another wording for "I know Windows better than Linux" or "I don't know Linux at all". To quote:
"Linux has two types of accounts: Normal, and Super-User. That’s like having “Restricted User” and “Administrator” on Windows, with nothing in between."
Sure!! This is it! Oh well, it's not. Under Unix/POSIX (ie, also under a GNU/Linux) system, you have groups. Every file (under Unix this is basically everything) has a group it belongs to and permissions for this group. If you are in the group, you can profit from these permissions, if not, not.
So let's see. "Linux has X types of accounts, whereas X is the sum of possibilitys to combine all groups Y on the system, therefor 2^Y)". There is no restriction to the group number.
Guess what, on a normal "Linux" system there are various groups, for example a group which has access to your sound devices, or one which has access to usb devices, or groups who are able to use "shutdown" ....
Guess what, this is very powerfull and existed yet even before Windows NT came out.
Guess what, You just don't have any damn clue, but do claims which are very .. brave...
"WMC blows – quite literally." -- they've literally got no idea what literally means.
Well, sure linux has groups. They aren't the same as multiple accout types. For anyone who has had to run *nix servers it'll quickly be painfully obvious how annoying groups are.
Thankfully there are ACLs for Linux. So no, there aren't two user types; how this person set up his system there are two. I can have as many as I'd like, even banish root if I feel like it.
Please please, stop this comparison idiocy if you don't know both operating systems deeply. It's wrong, it gives the wrong impression (both of you and of the OS).
"On Linux one must install all dependencies first, and with programs like Yum(ex) it isn’t hard, but it certainly is time-consuming." Please, on your Linux distribution this works this way. Using some repository online. You see, I have this huge repository running on my LAN that's mirrored automatically and installs are limited by the speed of my harddrive. This is just an example, remember that when you're installing these things they come from a CD. This is unlike the Linux example where they come over the internet which is a lot slower. The deeper point here is, and if you're going to remember one thing it should be this, please please stop saying "In Linux" There is no such thing. "In Linux" Is a vanilla kernel that comes from kernel.org. That's it. You can say "In Fedora" but always remember, most of us do have better setups, loads of use do use different distributions.
Also please cease this "runs significantly faster". You want numbers and how you set up your system. You see, I have this script that sets aside a few megs of RAM and makes my most frequently used programs come up instantaneously. It just so happens that some distrubtions make other versions of the same idea available. If you really wanted to make that an informative review, you should have explained what a relocation is, what goes on when you start a program and why the windows way is faster (if it is).
Comments like all flavours of Linux make you use the shell to do things are misguided. Ineed yesterday I was having a conversation about how a person had been using Ubuntu (long time Linux user) and was surprised that he didn't need the shell for anything.
"The new networking stack far surpasses Windows XP’s or even Linux’s networking performance, with internet pages loading up to 8% faster than XP and up to 4% faster than Linux on identical web browsers in our tests (Opera 9.0.1 and Firefox 2.0 Beta)." This is a ridiculous comment. You are comparing Firefox on two different OSes (at best). This does in no way benchmark the networking stack, indeed when loading up a page a trivial amount of work is done by it compared to all the work needed to parse and render it. If you're going to make statements like that use real benchmarking tools and understand what they are doing, which but of the stack is being used and why there is a performance difference. Only then can you make such comments.
I'd write more, but if you didn't understand my point by now this is useless.
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This article is filled with lies and FUD. Its entirely untrue. Linux has offered this "never before seen, innovative and foolproof" security measures "introduced in IE7" for years, its known as Mandatory Access Control or SELinux. And it has been around a while, there are even competing implementations, such as AppArmor. And unlike Microsoft, the Linux community has been working on implementing it EVERYWHERE, not just in the browser. It knows that DHCP clients only need to edit IP addresses/DNS servers and read its config file. It won't allow it to access anything else. Its not just restricted to the most exploited programs on the system. Fedora Core 5 and RHEL3 enables this by default.
Also, the dependency problem still seems to be there on Windows Vista. For an experiment to test what you stated, I just tried downloading and installing PHP, an extremely common web server scripting language, on a fresh Windows Vista RC1 install. Windows does not offer one click installs for downloading and installing common applicatoins, so I was forced to go to PHP's website in order to download it. Unfortunately, I did not meet its dependencies, I didn't have a web server, and Windows Vista did not offer me any way to rectify this dependency issue, so it left PHP unconfigured. I downloaded and installed Apache, the most common web server, and installed it on Windows Vista. I tried to use PHP with it, but unfortunately, it was still unconfigured. I figured I could try to run the PHP installer again, but PHP was installed, just not configured. In order to resolve the dependency issue, I had to uninstall PHP and then reinstall it again. It was quite a pain in the ass and wasted at least an hour of my time just getting one common program installed.
I figured I would try to accomplish the same exact task in Linux. I rebooted into Linux, and opened the package manager and selected to install PHP. The package manager informed me that I didn't have a web server installed and offered to also install apache for me. I said ok, and then it automatically downloaded Apache, PHP, and installed and configured both of them. It also automatically started the server for me. I was then able to begin programming. It took under 2 minutes to get to the same exact point in Linux, of which it only required user interaction for the first 30 seconds, thanks to the lack of dependency issues and automated download process.
So I figured maybe Windows isn't good at dealing with web server applications, so I tried some other applications. It seemed that Windows Vista would consistantly fail to resolve dependencies and just fail if you didn't meet them before you tried to run the installers. Because of the complicatedness, I found that many applications decided to statically link to libraries, leaving me with multiple copies. In the event of a security issue, each application would need to be updated individually, which many times, they just don't do it. The dependency issue is very real and is a huge problem on Windows Vista. I do hope that they are able to resolve it before release so I can try Windows Vista again and have a better experience, however as Microsoft has yet to dedicate any man hours to the issue, I am not hopeful, and I can't afford the lost producitivity associated with these problems, in addition to the increased risk and viruses, longer patch times, and so on, so I am forced to keep Linux installed and recommend it to everyone I know.
Ok, although the reviewers tried to do a good job in covering Vista, this review has several serious flaws and omissions.
For example, the memory usage explanations... 1) The writer focuses on baseline memory usage, but this, as in XP depends on system RAM how much Windows will load into active RAM. If you have 2GB of RAM, XP and Vista will both load 400-500mb of RAM on initial load. However if you have 512mb of RAM you will find that both XP and Vista load a more conservative amount.
RAM usage also reflects active pages of RAM and the system Caching, both areas are important and with a review like this should have been addressed. Vista has new caching methods (like File I/O won't steal memory from applications) like can happen in XP and previous NT OSes. These are technical details that are explained on the MS site and also something any review should mention, test, and or explain to the end users why this in important.
A good Tag line for Vista's RAM usage is like this. "Vista 'appears' to use more RAM, but it is significantly smarter with its memory usage and this improves application performance across the board."
Another flaw in the Memory portion is the assessment that the 'visuals' in Vista are balanced between GPU and CPU. This is NOT true. What the reviewer is seeing is the DWM, a service application that manages what you see on the screen and is a part of the WDDM and Vista Graphics Composer.
The DWM does NOT balance usage to the CPU for graphics functions as the reviewer suggests. In fact more graphics functions are processed on the GPU than ANY other OS, as even bitmap effect and all vector compositions are processed on the GPU even for 2D applications, surpassing the basic texture/bitmap compose of what OSX is doing.
If the reviewer would have looked up what the DWM does and why it exists in relation to system Memory, they would have found that Vista's WDDM model has several new concepts that is even new to GPUs, and the exact opposite of what the reviewer is implying is what is happening.
For example, the WDDM model of Vista allows 3D applications and even the Vista UI itself to 'share' the GPU in the computer, no longer do applications 'lock' the GPU for a single application to use.
How this relates to memory is that Vista also has the ability to not only multitask 3D applications to the GPU that all want exclusive access, but it can also 'virtualize' GPU memory and share system memory for GPU functions. So if your Video Card only has 128mb of RAM and you running several 3D applications that are consuming 256mb of Video RAM, Vista virtualizes this RAM into system RAM transparently; however, this would 'raise' the system memory usage and the DWM would increase in size to reflect this virtualization.
People should truly be reading the articles being posted by Microsoft, as they are finally giving explanations of what Vista is all about and how it truly has innovations and technologies that no other OS has ever attempted to harness in an easy to use platform.
http://msdn.microsoft.com/windowsvista/
(And I no affiliation with MS, I am part of a technical development team and also a founding member of a research group on computer technologies, including OSes and user interaction and usability concepts.)
How about Start, Connect To? That's just two clicks to view available networks.
Why do the Linux/Unix/OS X hardcore users come out and bash Microsoft? This goes way back, and quite frankly, there will never be one OS!! I have been an admin for very large government agencies and we run Linux/Unix/OS X and Windows throughout our shops. Essentially, each OS does something better than the next (e.g. users love working with the Windows UI -- don't know why, but when given a choice between Unix/Linux/OS X, they typically enjoy working with the Windows UI). That does not necessarily mean Windows is better than the others; it just means some users prefer the featureset presented by the Windows UI. Additionally, you have to remember the Microsoft owns 95% of the userbase and application base. Whether this is good or bad is not in question...it just is something we live with. Where am i going??? Well, the point i am making is that bashing Microsoft does nothing to help the overall effort to get another product noticed (Unix/Linux/OS X). Vista is a decent product; better than any past Microsoft OS endeavors. Yes it has issues, yes the UI is heavy, but remember Microsoft is paying millions for UI development and trending. Microsoft built the UI with colors, transparencies, etc. because that is what Microsofts consumer base wants (according to studies). If Linux/Unix/OS X are so much better (overall) according to recent posts, do something and go out and publicly advocate and demonstrate the greatness (don't just anonomously post-bash). I use Unix everyday, however; my desktop runs a beta versio of Windows Vista and i get by just fine. Maybe one day, the millions of open source programmers can get together, stop coding, and figure out how to market their product. Same with OS X. Unix/Linux/OSX will always be the underdog if they don't figure out how to take some of the Windows 95% userbase.
I don't know. But on my Asus A6Vm notebook (1.73GHz P-M, 1 GB RAM, 120 GB Seagate Momentus 5400) Photoshop CS2 starts in under 15 sec, and shutdown is never more than 1 min, but mostly shorter. All this under Windows Server 2003, but XP shows similar numbers, so I can't imagine how the hell can you have such slow numbers? My Desktop Workstation (Core 2 Duo, 4GB RAM...) blow my notebook's numbers away. So your PC is either badly configured or has a crappy motherboard... and I don't pay much attention to Vista until RTM, because all this beta and RC stuff is probably badly optimized. Anyway I hope the UI will be much improved, because right now is a clown UI, Microsoft needs to do much on clearing that UI because right now it is crappy graphic design, bad colors and overcomplicated, it's need to be simply and clear and configurable. OK, it's great for my grandmom and for a 12 years old kids, but be serious, can you imagine a professional system with that clown graphics?
Ummm, wouldn't it be stupid for a company to not have what the competition offers? everyon is talking about vista being a rip off, but if it did not offer all the advantages of other OS's, then why would ppl use it? But why listen to me, i know everyone hates microsoft and whatever they do. Linux and Apple do everything right... right? Maybe ppl should start comparing linux over apple and leave microsoft out of it if its such a bad OS. I think your starting to see what im saying. You all like to bad mouth microsoft.
You all must be interested in vista if ur reading this review. So linux and macos must not be all that great, otherwise you wouldn't need to read up on it.
How much did Microsoft pay you for this?
[quote comment="6087"]Why do the Linux/Unix/OS X hardcore users come out and bash Microsoft?[/quote]
Well, every OS has it's features and it's shortcomings. Problem is, when someone wants his/her favourite OS to look better than it really is. This is exactly what this "review" is all about. So nobody would came and tell "linux had this before" "linux does that better" if the writer of the "review" wouldn't have made statements like "Vista's user model is better than the one of linux" or "Vista has a better networking stack than linux, because my google loads faster"...
As some posters pointed out, Windows really has big shortcomings when it comes to package management etc. (which is also due to the proprietary nature of Windows and its applications)... There are other things one would/could miss under Linux for sure. Let's see, sometimes there are still problems playing more than 1 PCM source on a soundcard under Linux! So I never saw anyone writing "Linux audio support is better than under Windows" - but the reviewers on this website - if they would like & review a Linux based OS - sure would!
not impressed!
The mindset of Linux/Mac fanboys: "Damn, I was soooo hoping that Vista would suck. :(
Well, I'll still bash it, hoping to convince others that it does!! Yeah, that's the ticket!"
you Linux fanboys are absolutely pathetic and scared to death of Vista. The Mac fanboys aren't quite as bad.
I've come across lots users complaining about Windows. No matter which version it might be. They kick up a massive stink, MS this, MS that! I've also seen the same folks using and loving Windows...despite what MS stand for.
Windows has a lot of strong points and linux has its own. Let's face it, user accounts and management is not a Windows strong point. The only reason you need a "limited" Administrator account in Windows is because a limited user can only run a handful of applications. Very few applications for windows are aware of user privileges, most expect administrator rights because they need to write to the registry, temp folders and the like, and a limited user cannot do that. Quite honestly, I find only Office is really aware when it is running as a limited user. On the other hand the linux user is able to run any user app, and in fact some apps complain when run as root! It is just the user cannot make any changes to system files but can only mess with his home folder. You do not need a "limited" administrator in linux. You only become root to administer. Period. You do everything else with your normal user account.
I love all you OS idiots. Linux raises the dead, everyone and their mother steals from OSX, windows rapes babies and stole the election for Bush.. get over it all OS's suck in their own unique ways.. Face it Vista is the OS to pay attention to because 90% of the world (fine lets say microsoft looses some ground 80%) will use this OS so like it or now you WILL have to deal with it.. Learn to make your peace.. Yes I know there will always be some dumbass who says BUT I switched to Linux X many years ago and never had to use anything else.. Well your a dumbass and you live in a bubble.. Us working professionals do work on it not matter if your IT or if your in accounting..
So get over it, its just a OS.. If you can do your work on it great, if you can't work on another OS.. If your like me use 3 different OS's for thousands of different tasks.. Grow up stop being children, if you want something to fight about do what everyone else does force your religion on the powerless and poor.. '
In closing, Grow up, stop bickering like children, embrace new technology and ideas (even if they conflict with your preconceived notions) and most importantly KISS MY SHINY METAL ASS!!
The problem with all reviews and other peoples take on something new like a new o/s is, you can't compare windows to unix and osx because they are different and allways will be, so don't compare one o/s to a different o/s and another thing is when time changes and a new o/s comes out look at what you use if for and most people dont benchmark there system they look at can this work for me and is it easy to use, when xp came out the reviews were bad and told everybody to stay with windows 98 and windows 2000 but now everybody that is an every day user uses xp home or pro why is that because it works and its easy to use and so is windows vista you might have to upgrade to get better performance but for the everyday user this new windows will work just fine and inhance there everyday computer use.
"its easy to use and so is windows vista you might have to upgrade to get better performance but for the everyday user this new windows will work just fine and inhance there everyday computer use."
i am the everyday user, and i dont think Vista is as easy to use as XP. having to pay $300 for a system that works "just fine" is not what i want. it is true that most people use XP, because of .... who knows what. the fact is that now days there ARE alternatives to windows that are better, graphicaly and physicly. yes maybe Vista will turn out like XP however with new systems getting more and more exposure, like OSX and Ubuntu and SLED10 i dont think it will turn out the same. the graphic interfaces in those systems are far above Vista PERIOD. have you used Windows attempt of "multiple desktops"? and have you seen what Novel has began and projects like Compiz (now Beryl) have enhanced. talking about an eXPerience. Please dont give that BS that everything is OK because Joe Blow doesnt know the difference. Joe Blow does know the difference, because everybody learns from their mistakes.
There is a reason why Mac and Unix/Linux only have 5% of the market. I can only hope that with Vista they will go the way of Novell. You think microsoft is a rip off of existing technology, well what about the Mac ipod? Isn't that just a sony walkman reviseted? There may be alot of overhead in the UI but what's wrong with a good looking product? Could it be that it's not the overhead of the UI but the cheapness of people still trying to run modern software in thier outdated hardware... You know you can still run DOS if you like that spartan look. I am reserving final judgement for the final product but from what I can see so far I am pleased.
[quote comment="6174"]There is a reason why Mac and Unix/Linux only have 5% of the market. I can only hope that with Vista they will go the way of Novell. You think microsoft is a rip off of existing technology, well what about the Mac ipod? Isn't that just a sony walkman reviseted?[/quote]
what is that reason? and with Vista "they" (Mac, and Ubuntu, SLED10) which is what you meant by UNIX/Linux will get more exposure because what Vista is doing or trying to do with their GUI it is already finished and performs with far less overhead. you should visit http://youtube.com/watch?v=wYjv0S_k0xo and as far as UNIX/linux well as long as there is an internet, they will never go away, only get better. and if you really want to compare the two distros i pointed out to Microsoft, well overall Microsfot looses. why? because it costs $330 for XP pro and that is the student liscence and it does not include Office. you should really look into all the different Linux Distros they are not what most people remmember.
[quote comment="6174"]You think microsoft is a rip off of existing technology, well what about the Mac ipod? Isn't that just a sony walkman reviseted? [/quote]
you are right; and i guess the calculator is much the same. nothing new, no new technology or new [i love this part] "FUNCTIONALITY" its just an Abacus revisited.
windows "longhorn" with "older" software suck,that say it all.If windows 6.0 aka "longhorn""vista" whatever they like to call it can't run basic xp .exe and run them without crushing then what's the point haveing it???
if microSoft do not make it compatible with earlyer os'es then Linux look's like the king of the world and there is no saveing Microsoft.
@zois: it's very compatible... Don't know what programs you're talking about, but have you tried it for yourself? Compatibility is good, and is the least of their (very big) worries ATM.
i want windows vista demo file
[quote comment="6200"]i want windows vista demo file[/quote] http://download.windowsvista.com/preview/rc1/en/download-5728.htm
guru i try yahoo messenger on it and crush on both 8 and 6 version's . and voice suport is not working too :)).
I have been testing windows Vista for since Rc1 is out and it is far from friendly user and stabilaty. I'am an iT tech and believe me i know what a "basic" user is. If is icon is not at the very same place he left it last time he is lost.
With vista i see a lot of Code 18 calls coming up. For that side i hope w'ill stay with xp for a long time. And besides the computers here are for a majority single core 3ghz with 1024mb of rams, with is just enough to have vista running with one or two other software and Aero down.
Nowe the other side... witch is compatibility and stability, well, not that much for a version of OS that's just on it's final stage. It didn't even recognise my USB key. And for installing sofware, there is not much of the present soft that work. Winrar worked fine, Nero lasted 7.6.x.x will not work. I herd others that had Nero up and running in a snap while others like me will have a headhake on it. My freakin audio drivers are all but stable and they come from creative. When it ask for a reboot it reboots on a dark screen, i have to shut it down completely to have it reboot. And that is on a Dell corporate system and a Basic amd with Nvidia chipset test system. I had to install the beta Mcafee because the current version caused vista to crash and bleu screened (yes BSOD is still there) and i had to reinstall vista. A few software were installed with the compatility thing and others i had to fool vista with some tweak headbraking tricks to have them running. That's not friendly user. 90% of the things i plugged in USB were not recognised and XP got them all up and "ready to use". For a, almost 14 gig used space on hard-drive OS, it dose not include much usable stuf, mostly good looking only. Hope the final version is as good as the eye shocking look. Because i dont like a good looking crashed OS. "sad joke"
Hey Mcfly You really need to learn about computers or better still actually install and use Vista. I am from the UK and have Vista installed on seven pcs all using office beta and close call epos systems and I gotta say I’ve had not one problem from any of them, networking has been totally overhauled with superb security due to re stacking. I’d advise anyone to give Vista a try and try to be unbiased. I believe we may have many redundancies at our company if this is what will be.
P/S with 42 employees using USB pens I decided to ask if anyone had any problems using them.....surprise, no problems!
I have owned a retail computer store for over 23 years. I have heard all of your comparisons about just about everything over those years including one customer I recall who used 16 different operating systems and liked Windows the least.
I can tell all of you that you sound just all of those I have heard in the past trying to defend your 1, 1.5%, etc. shares of the markets OS's,...it doesn't matter, Windows Vista will be the real marketer of the world's OS/s for a long time in the future...long after Vista, I am sure.
Vista is fine. I have had many customers "play" with Linux, etc., they end up for the most part with Windows when it comes to their real world (their families, friends and work). Most even end up back with Windows after a time and I just smile...as I knew they would. Just happened by this forum and will probably never be back...so say what you wish, I will never know. But, I am already smiling...as I know after all thesse years what really matters and where the money is at. Ignorance is bliss, I suppose.
Is it as stable as windows xp pro? I just love my windows XP pro and i still didn't see any good reason to upgrade.
More or less. So long as you have digitally signed drivers made for Windows Vista, it's stable. The problems start when you use unsigned drivers on x64, or when you use XP drivers on Vista x86.
Other than that it's fairly stable. We just need to get the hardware manufacturers to put their resources to use instead of twiddling their thumbs and get some real drivers written.
The simple fact is that when I get people phoning me for support, I'm going to have to have installed and been using it to fix it! Like it or not, it's going to keep me in business.
Windows vista is the most beautiful softweare.
Vista is da best softwear i hav seen til 2day
I am using linux and windows from last 8 years , infact my desktop is presently running on linux and my laptop on windows. From my experience linux has came long way but it will take much longer way to reach windows. I see people here bashing vista as it is hogging memory, but it is same with the linux. I am running ubuntu dapper on my friends system on 256 MB memory and it sux. Ubuntu will run fine with 512MB memory, same with the case of vista with AERO off. As a developer i can tell that linux libraries are fragmented and its hard to program, while windows provide huge set of completed libraries which attracts lots of developers. Linux has not come to the stage where an average user can easily adopted to it. If something wrong happens to the linux, it kills lots of time in order to find the fault and to fix it, its not the case with the windows where things just works. The only thing i like in linux is its kernel and every thing is a mess.
I know what you mean. Despite all these "setbacks," I'm still using Vista.
Lots of interesting (and un-interesting comments above). Current Window users will eventually be forced along the Vista route, so accept it.
I am more concerned about the minimum system specification required to run Vista. Although claimed to be 800mhz processor, that is pure and utter nonsense. It's about time Microsoft gave some realistic guidelines without forcing people to upgrade.
I'm a long-time mac user, I have to say that I love OSX, but have been waiting for MSoft to produce something that looks a little more 21st century. I know, I know. you tech-heads don't really care about 'funky'. I have no clue what 'stacking' might be, and I don't much care - all I'd want is an OS that works. Out the box. Easy to learn. Simple to maintain (not damn registry editing, I'd want a automtic cleaner built in to Vista).
OSX has had some issues, but I'd guess that ALL OSs do. Although I love Apple, there's no way that they should kid themselves that they are ever going to be more that a bit player - even if the new macs can run OSX, XP, Linux, and Vista (with some tossing abaht) on one machine. It doesn't matter. MSoft have 95% of the market, and good luck to them. There was always going to be a sucessor to XP, and it was always going to look a little more special, as that is what the market demands.
I hope MSoft have great success with Vista, and that Apple's Leopard doews great for them too, and that Unix/Linux continue to be the techies wet dream in every way. The thing is there are as many OSs on the market as we wnat there to be, and progress in any OS benefits users of other OSs.
Anyhoo, I've finished a bottle of wine whilst starting this, and have quite forgotten my original point. That's a good point to sign off.
I received two keys from Microsoft but found when I clicked on the download link that the program was closed. I hope that is not an indication of how Microsoft runs thier business. Or may be it is. I would love to comment about RC 1 but all I have are two useless keys! Any ideas how I could obtain a copy of RC 1 would be great.
Every other operating system, than Windows Vista is crap!
I like it as clear and simple as Vista is!
Oh and 99% of software is only Windows capable, so why should i use some linux/unix/apple/mac anyways???
SamIAm
You cannot download Vista Beta from MS anymore
You may use torrents though.
If you don't know what torrents are use this link: http://www.click-now.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=1773
Linux is alot easier to use than you may think. I would let my grandma use the latest distros (and thats saying ALOT). Still not perfect (a command prompt is useful to get things done quickly and efficiently. This may be intimidating to some.) Vista, when you get down to it, is still windows. It uses alot of the same code as XP but with more "features" tacked on top. This new code is untested and, I am sure, full of back doors. The only reason MS is still in business is because of a few slip-ups by other companies (most notably Apple for losing that case way back when and IBM for not buying MS) OSX is very easy to use and I would say its the perfect blend of simplicity, power, security and stability. I have used all three products extensively (though currently use linux because i love programming). If MS produces a good product, I will shut up but until then, seriously, they need to get on the ball and innovate a little.
Robig, you see the problem, don't you?
Since the world uses MS, you have to too. At least if you want to make a living. If you plan on working for a desktop software developer, 99 times out of a 100, you're going to be required to work on Windows, because that's what your audience is.
The reason MS and Windows are still on the top is because they won the game quickly and from the very beginning. For every OS X application you can find, there are 2000 Windows programs.
In computing, where it's all about standards, the one that can take over fastest wins.
I just installed Vista for an old lady across the street from me, got her computer set up, and installed a printer and some other hardware. This was the first time I've touched Vista. I have to say...it's slow, bloated, doesn't seem to add much new from XP, and the hardware support absolutely sucks. That's right, I spent way more time than I needed to over there struggling to get the damn printer installed. It should have been easy. It is on XP. I won't even go into the problems I had with installing the wireless card or the terrible network center interface.
I hated it.
I have to agree Jacob, those are the same weak points I experienced in Windows Vista myself.
But I think the rest is good though, no?
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Can you say run-on sentence?
Wtf are you idiots bagging vista for? It uses less cpu power thanks to the new gui which can be turned off, but why the hell would you? Most *nix OS's have around 30 accounts, why are people saying it has 1000? Vista has around 20 itself. People who are unwilling to test it but will bag it out by comparing it to something stupid that doesn't exist anyway are moronic.
Hilarious quote from comment #1: the colors should not make eyes to ake
He evidently can't spell "colour"; and he doesn't realise the colours are easily changeable - something you notice when you test the OS.
You seem not to know your language very well, otherwise you could tell some common differences between British English and American English, one of them says "color", the other one "colour"...
Anyway, do you also have something valuable to tell?